Smalltalk, Objects, and Design

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1. LordarminiusApr 2018
   > I agree that it is a language worth understanding. However the OO model of Ruby is identical....

   I independently arrived at the same conclusion. The main problem with Pharo is the esoteric tooling; life is too short to struggle with tools.

   That said, I consider Smalltalk, Objects and Design by Chamond Liu to be one of the best books I ever read on the subject of object oriented programming. Heartily recommended.

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2. tuco91Sep 2016
   I agree that learning Smalltalk is the best way to learn OOP. But you should be careful with design patterns, design patterns are not a tool that you just use, they arise naturally in an OO model, and you should know them well to recognize them. Besides, several of the design patterns from the GoF are not necessary in a language with closures.

   I strongly recommend three books:

   Smalltalk, Objects, and Design - by Chamond Liu

   Object Thinking, by David West

   Object Design: Roles, Responsibilities, and Collaborations by Rebecca Wirfs-Brock

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3. EliRiversAug 2015
   Smalltalk lives on in Objective-C :)

   I learned the syntax of Objective-C from a tiny reference guide. I learned how to program in Objective-C by reading Chamond Liu's "Smalltalk, Objects, and Design".

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4. asoloveJul 2012
   The original MVC architecture was for GUI interfaces in Smalltalk. It was so helpful a design pattern it was borrowed for use in request/response web application, where naturally the use of each part was very different.

   If you really want to "get" the original MVC, see the classic book "Smalltalk, Objects, and Design" [1] which explains MVC and other OO architectures as well as the principles behind them, which might guide you to picking an appropriate structure for applications that don't fit the GUI/MVC paradigm.

   [1] http://www.amazon.com/Smalltalk-Objects-Design-Chamond-Liu/d...

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5. fractallyteApr 2012
   There's a great collection of free books at: http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html

   I found the following particularly useful: 'Smalltalk by Example', by Alex Sharp; 'Smalltalk With Style', by Edward Klimas, Suzanne Skublics and David A Thomas.

   This is a great book for beginners in any OO language: 'Smalltalk, Objects, and Design', by Chamond Liu

   Also surprisingly useful (terse, but well structured): 'On To Smalltalk', by Patrick Henry Winston

   Finally, there's the excellent ProfStef interactive tutorial that's included with Pharo (http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/01/learn-smalltalk-with-profs...).

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6. felideonDec 2010
   * Smalltalk Objects And Design by Chamond Liu

   * The Art of the Metaobject Protocol by Gregor Kiczales

   Don't let the second one fool you. Although it is a Lisp book, it presents OOP design principles applicable to any language. As the Amazon review says: "The Art of the Meta-Object Protocol is useful for the advanced CLOS user as well as for anyone interested in object-oriented programming and language design."

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