Lying

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1. dalyDec 2022
   https://www.amazon.com/Lying-Moral-Choice-Public-Private/dp/...

   Lying by Bok

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2. olooneyOct 2019
   The submitted link goes to a brief review of a recently published collection of essays; however, there's a table of contents and an abstract for each essay in the book itself available here[1].

   I picked up Sissela Bok's book Lying[2] a few years ago. While in someways it echoes the old "categorical imperative" argument (lying is wrong because you wouldn't want to live in a world where everyone routinely lies) I found it to be much more nuanced than Kant's heavy handed and inflexible system. There are in-depth discussions of paternalistic lies, lying to dying patients, lying to protect confidentiality, and much more.

   [1]: https://www.oxfordscholarship.com/view/10.1093/oso/978019874...

   [2]: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/15606/lying-by-siss...

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3. dalyAug 2024
   Chapter 10 of AI Ethics (ISBN 978-0262538190) catalogs various proposals for design and development of ethical systems.

   Many of these ideas, such as explainable systems, are beyond the reach of any future systems in my opinion. Even people will "make up a rational for things they have done" which has no basis in fact. Asking an AI system to explain would essentially be asking it to hallucinate.

   Given the growing idea of mixture-of-experts, it may be useful to have the community focus on creating an "Ethical Expert" which is included in every mixture-of-expert architecture.

   Even the idea of trying to create such an Ethical Expert (an AI Superego?) is a challenge. Perhaps this is the end goal of Anthropic or Sutskever's Safe SuperIntelligence (https://ssi.inc/). I'd love to be a fly-on-the-wall for THOSE discussions :-)

   I spend a lot of time studying the ethics question. I'm curious how such an AI SuperEgo would handle Sissela Bok's book on Lying (ISBN 978-0375705281). Though her book is about Moral, not Ethical, choice it would still be an interesting challenge for an AI SuperEgo.

   (my working definitions:

   Morals: The rules you choose to live by

   Ethics: What you would do if the world knew you did it)

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