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    Cover of Starry Messenger

    Starry Messenger

    Neil deGrasse Tyson · 2022

    The astrophysicist and director of the Hayden Planetarium delves into subjects including politics, religion, gender and race.

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    2019–2024years
    67% recommend33% neutral

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    1. alphaBetaGammaOct 2024
      Galileo refers in this to a book he had published earlier, the "Starry Messenger". It is well worth reading.

      Galileo had just build the first ever telescope and he describes what he has discovered: there are incredibly more stars than can be seen by the naked eye; Jupiter has satellites; there are mountains on the moon and he has figured out their height from the length of their shadows... The book is full of the quiet excitement of a man who has discovered a new world, and seen what no man had seen before.

      https://archive.org/details/siderealmessenge80gali/page/6/mo...

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    2. jrauserSep 2019
      Starry Messenger - Galileo

      Very fun and readable. He's so excited to tell the world about what he's learned.

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    3. fourtreesDec 2021
      I agree and think the Jesuits are one of the best things to emerge from the Roman Church in ages. There are/have been problems with the Jesuits as with any other big, influential organization, but I think as a whole they deserve our respect for their piety (even if they're wrong about theism), erudition, and bravery in traveling the world in the early modern period. They've been called God's Marines for a reason, like a soldier tasked with establishing a beachhead, they suffered miserably for their mission. Speaking truth to power in defense of the colonized and powerless has generally been another of their dangerous practices

      They published a Mandarin translation of Galileo's Starry Messenger and notes on sunspots within about 15 years of Messengers' first publication in Italy. They were successful in converting Japanese by not attempting to replace Japanese culture wholesale. The arrival of the Dominicans, the Dutch, and the end of the civil wars put a bloody stop to that, but their temporary success does demonstrate the efficacy of their methods. They stood up to National Socialism (among many others).

      They also tried to defend Catholicism in England (and indeed ministered to cryptocatholics who weren't buying what Henry and Liz were selling). They became a stereotype arch-villain of the English propaganda of the era called the Black Legend. It's largely mixed with the historical truth in the modern popular imagination of the anglosphere by now (viz. Dan Brown) . It alleges that the Spanish were treacherous idolaters, fond of torture and so on. The Spanish indeed were rabid imperialists and religious bigots, but not to a unique degree for the age. The Jesuits were the ones being tortured in England for (religiously) aiding the silenced and powerless.

      This tendency hasn't really changed. Liberation theology and its less extreme brethren have largely been products of Jesuit theology. At times it seems like they're among the few Catholics who read whole catechism (there are some surprisingly progressive ideas in it) and don't focus to great excess on sex and abortion.

      It is important to remember the failings of the Church too.

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