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    Conscious Mind, Resonant BrainStephen Grossberg

    Conscious Mind, Resonant Brain

    Stephen Grossberg · 2021

    Psychology & Behavior
    Open LibraryAmazon
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    5mentions
    3people
    2021–2022years
    80% recommend20% neutral

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    1. ChaitanyaSaiOct 2022
      There's a fully fleshed out theory of how specific synchronizing oscillations, resulting in "resonance" generate conscious experiences, including the kind of memories discussed here.

      Before you dismiss this as another kooky consciousness theory, please let me add that this the only mechanistically precise one out there. All others are black-box models (yes, a bold claim!)

      Sadly, it is completely ignored within neuroscience even if its "founder", Stephen Grossberg, is generally recognized as one of the pioneers of computational neuroscience and responsible for many now-commonplace ideas.

      (plug) We've even written a book that, among other things, offers a gentle introduction to this work https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58085266-journey-of-the-...

      And for anyone in AI/neuroscience I’d really, really recommend reading Grossberg’s Magnum Opus with an open mind: https://www.amazon.com/Conscious-Mind-Resonant-Brain-Makes/d...

      This article may be a good place to start, even if the terminology takes a little getting used to: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S089360801...

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      Coming back to the question of consciousness, I’d wager that we are going to have to ask the question of artificial consciousness very seriously as AI models continue to get better at a rapid pace (no, they are not conscious yet). You might find this worth reading: https://saigaddam.medium.com/understanding-consciousness-is-...

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    2. ChaitanyaSaiJun 2022
      As always, so much is written about consciousness without attempting to define it, or state clearly what its function might be. There's usually a pattern. After a lot of preamble, the non-definition of "what it feels like" is offered. This itself is an indication that our understanding of consciousness is so poor that we cannot articulate the question itself.

      Why are some experiences conscious and some experiences not? Why is spotting a ball conscious, but the precise arm movements that take it there unconscious? (Can you tell what your elbow or your back muscles did as your arm maneuvered towards the ball?)

      We finally understand consciousness.

      Not just at a metaphorical level (Daniel Dennett has done a wonderful job of that), but at a mechanistic how-is-it-put together. Rather that focus on who has solved it, I'll talk about that it is (That info is at the end)

      What is the function of consciousness? Among others, It is the "hierarchical, simultaneous, and rapid resolution of uncertainty." Our world, of large macro-scale beings, is fundamentally ambiguous.

      The dominant "bayesian" and "information" metaphors for understanding brain functions do not take time and fundamental ambiguity inherent to the world into account. Meaning is not given to us on a plate. It must be manufactured by the brain. Information is constructed from sensory data. How? And what does it mean?

      Here is an example: Listen to this audio. What do you hear?

      https://soundcloud.com/sai-gaddam-454459762/what-do-you-hear

      Firstly, note that whatever you hear is a conscious percept. It is your brain orchestrating its daily unceasing miracle of resolving uncertainty and helping you consciously perceive.

      Are you hearing "The scent of the two-cent stamp sent me back"? If not, you will now (and why is that?)

      There are three homonyms (SCENT, CENT, and SENT -- which all sound the same) in this audio sequence that unfolds over time that are seemingly instantly resolved into three entirely different meanings. How?

      That is one example of fundamental ambiguity. Computation is everything that the brain does to the sensory data it takes in. The auditory sequence in this case. Consciousness is what you consciously perceive. The three different meanings, somehow resolved all at once. And if you think about it, there's some time-travel involved here. SCENT and CENT can only be resolved in meaning towards the end of the sentence. Consciousness is what allows us to do this resolution into something stable and take action, and be entirely oblivious to all the many possibilities that this could have been. And we do this thousands of times everyday as go about perceiving and acting on what is filtered through this conscious perception.

      This example also helps us focus on one crucial aspect of consciousness that every major theory or discussion out there ignores. There is a timeline to consciousness. What "it feels like" undulates over time.

      Any theory but of consciousness must be able to explain the phenomenological timeline. But since our understanding is so poor, every major theory ignores this entirely. See https://www.nature.com/articles/s41583-022-00587-4 for a great review of all the major theories. The authors lament how all the major theories are imprecise, and that they should offer "computational models to bring mechanistic specificity" and be able to account for "temporality" among other things.

      And that brings me to the final part.

      We already have a wonderfully precise, mechanistic, and stunningly coherent "computational" framework for consciousness. Stephen Grossberg, often hailed as a pioneer in computational neuroscience and brain modeling, has explained consciousness by attempting to model every other facet of perception, which most take for granted as the "easy stuff". His work is of great importance for AI too which, for all the wonderful seemingly-magical stuff deeplearning has generated, is largely a one-trick pony riding error-backpropagation way too hard. His 65-year body of work, however, is largely unknown. The sentiment is captured by this tweet from an academic:

      https://twitter.com/KordingLab/status/1533904082393387008

      That is unfortunate. Grossberg’s work is important, and most importantly, offers the only coherent mechanistically precise, computational framework that also happens to explain consciousness.

      We expanded on why his work is important in this response in an academic journal: https://cpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/sites.ucsc.edu/dist/0/158/file...

      That response was a review of our recent book, Journey of the Mind, which apart from unpacking thinking, attempts to make Grossberg's work accessible. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58085266-journey-of-the-...

      And finally, you can go directly to the source. Stephen Grossberg's book (Conscious Mind, Resonant Brain) has all his 65 years worth of work collated into one coherent whole. https://global.oup.com/academic/product/conscious-mind-reson...

      I've written about it here: https://saigaddam.medium.com/the-greatest-neuroscientist-you...

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    3. TheDudeManJan 2022
      I have not heard of the guy or ART.

      Extremely high reviews on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Conscious-Mind-Resonant-Brain-Makes/p...

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    4. YeezyModeNov 2021
      You may have already, but you'd enjoy reading 'Conscious Mind Resonant Brain' by Stephen Grossberg.
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    5. ChaitanyaSaiSep 2022
      Author here. I reference them in the article, but if you are looking for the original sources, here they are:

      Conscious Mind, Resonant Brain by Stephen Grossberg https://www.amazon.com/Conscious-Mind-Resonant-Brain-Makes/d...

      And our own book Journey of the Mind: How Thinking Emerged from Chaos https://www.amazon.com/Journey-Mind-Thinking-Emerged-Chaos/d...

      And it has a ton of references. We didn't just make this stuff up you know! :)

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