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    Cover of The penultimate truth

    The penultimate truth

    Philip K. Dick · 1964

    The Penultimate Truth is a 1964 science fiction novel by American writer Philip K. Dick. The story is set in a future where the bulk of humanity is kept in large underground shelters. The people are told that World War III is being fought above them, when in reality the war ended years ago. The novel is based on Dick's 1953 short story "The Defenders". Dick also drew upon two other of his short stories for the plot of the novel: "The Mold of Yancy" and "The Unreconstructed M".

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    1. mtrnFeb 2017
      You might like The Penultimate Truth by Philip K. Dick[1]. In this 1964 novel the world has shifted slightly: Instead of giving "just enough to quell the uprisings", large parts of the population are just kept eternally busy to support the wealthy lifestyle of a few.

      [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Penultimate_Truth

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    2. noduermeOct 2025
      >> I should be able to get one up and running for you by the middle of next year

      Funny. I agree with your plainspoken analysis of why these things are nowhere near AGI, and of what AGI would be. I even had a long conversation with Claude last week where it told me that no LLM would ever approach AGI (but then it wrote a 4-paragraph-long diatribe entitled "Why I Declare Myself Conscious" in the same conversation). These neural networks are closer to the speechwriting machine in The Penultimate Truth, or the songwriting machine in 1984. As for that latter one, I believe Orwell remarks on how it just recycles the same sentimental tunes and words in different order so that there's always a "new" song all the proles are humming.

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    3. ggmJul 2024
      You've been watching "the 12 monkeys" ? Or just read PKD's "The Penultimate Truth" ? Or even just "Terminator" because that seems to be about humanity's life underground. Or even the polish film "sexmission" from 1984. Or maybe Stanslaw Lem's "memoir found in a bathtub" about the pentagon 5 layers deep underground...
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    4. the_afJan 2022
      Thanks for refreshing my memory! I was thinking of the short story "The Defenders", which Wikipedia tells me it inspired the novel "The Penultimate Truth".

      I find most (maybe all?) of PKD's novels were born of a short story with the same theme.

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    5. atombenderMay 2021
      Dick certainly refined his skill throughout his career. But at the same time, we can't deny that he wrote a lot of garbage in between his masterpieces.

      For example, in the same 4-year time period as masterpieces like Martian Time-Slip, The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch, and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, we got forgettable (and in some cases quite terrible) books like The Ganymede Takeover, The Game-Players of Titan, The Penultimate Truth, The Simulacra, and of course the universally maligned The Crack in Space.

      The sad truth is that Dick was fueling his writing habit with drugs (particularly amphetamines) during this time period. He wrote six novels in one 12-month period during 1963-1964. It's a marvel that even the clunkers are fairly readable things, though they're often throwbacks to his earlier pre-1960s work. Another sad truth is that Dick's output was also drive by the need for money (by 1964 he had three ex-wives).

      The odd one out from this period is Galactic Pot-Healer, which Dick claimed to have no memory of having written (too many amphetamines), and which he practically disowned. But it's one of his best, a colourful Vonnegutian mix of tragedy and comedy.

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    6. he11owApr 2020
      I'm looking to read Sci-Fi books/stories with a specific property:

      That at some point, a character uses a device or machine to write (as in, technology for writing that exists in the story's world).

      It doesn't have to be at all central to the plot, even is it just happens as an aside.

      It interests me to see what people (who spend most of their time both writing and imagining the future) were thinking of when they imagined how people would write if they had the right technology.

      Places where I've already seen such stuff are Asimov's Foundation and Empire, Philip K. Dick's The Penultimate Truth, Roald Dahl's The Great Automatic Grammatizator.

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