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    Zones of ThoughtVernor Vinge

    Zones of Thought

    Vernor Vinge · 2010

    Vinge's masterpieces together at last, in one epic volume The Hugo Award winning A FIRE UPON THE DEEP and its epic companion novel A DEEPNESS IN THE SKY, set in the same universe but 20,000 years earlier, were benchmarks for SF in the last decade of the 20th century. In FIRE 'Vinge presents a galaxy divided into Zones - regions where different physical constraints allow very different technological and mental possibilities. Earth remains in the "Slowness" zone, where nothing can travel faster than light and minds are fairly limited. The action of the book is in the "Beyond", where translight travel and other marvels exist, and humans are one of many intelligent species. One human colony has been experimenting to find a path to the "Transcend", where intelligence and power are so great as to seem godlike. Instead they release the Blight, an evil power, from a billion-year captivity.' Publisher's Weekly In DEEPNESS, 'the story has the same sense of epic vastness despite happening mostly in one isolated solar system. Here there's a world of intelligent spider creatures who traditionally hibernate through the "Deepest Darkness" of their strange variable sun's long "off" periods, when even the atmosphere freezes. Now, science offers them an alternative. Meanwhile, attracted by spider radio transmissions, two human starfleets come exploring - merchants hoping for customers and tyrants who want slaves.

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    32mentions
    26people
    2011–2026years
    41% recommend59% neutral

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    What Hacker News says

    1. mpalmerMay 2026
      Love the Culture books, wish I could wipe my brain and discover them again.

      It's not too much like Banks' stuff, but I must recommend Glasshouse by Charles Stross. Far-future humanity, really interesting ideas re: war, identity, memory and infohazards.

      Also if you've not already read Vinge's "Zones of Thought" books, absolutely get on that.

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    2. bediger4000Jan 2026
      This totally misses Vernor Vinge, who ended up concocting "Zones of Thought". See his classic "A Fire Upon the Deep" for another work of fiction were something weird has to be in place to keep singularities from happening.
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    3. hinkleyMay 2023
      Might be time to reread Vinge's Zones of Thought books.

      Sub in chiplets for motes. Also antennae are not the only side channel attack out there.

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    4. jorviJan 2023
      I think most hard sci-fi readers don’t give two hoots if their literature of choice is written by a western white man, Māori non-binary person or even an AI.

      On topic, I deeply disagree with the original commenter, these books can easily stand shoulder to shoulder with series like The Expanse or the Zones of Thought trilogy (by Vernor Vinge).

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    5. jrootabegaOct 2021
      I acknowledge that I'm digressing into general Vinge talk here instead of Zones of Thought, but Rainbow's End was good, too, as more of a near-future vision that, these days, would barely be considered sci-fi. It's also got some elements that are scarily analogous to current trends in government/social media/political dialogue.
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    6. hinkleyOct 2021
      Vinge already cemented himself with the peace war books, but his ability to present otherness in the Zones of Thought books is probably his most impressive accomplishment.

      Spiders you both can and can’t understand, and then hive mind mammals… The facile approach would be to cut out the middleman and make hive insects, and he did not. The speed of sound aspect of his hive mind was a brilliant stroke, the intergenerational element was the cherry on top.

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