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    The Making of a Manager

    Julie Zhuo · 2019

    "Congratulations, you're a manager! After you pop the champagne, accept the shiny new title, and step into this thrilling next chapter of your career, the truth descends like a fog: you don't really know what you're doing. That's exactly how Julie Zhuo felt when she became a rookie manager at the age of twenty-five. She stared at a long list of challenges--from hiring to firing, from meeting to messaging, from planning to pitching--and faced a thousand questions and uncertainties. How was she supposed to spin teamwork into value? How could she be a good steward of her reports' careers? What was the secret to leading with confidence in new and unexpected situations? Now, having managed dozens of teams spanning tens to hundreds of people, Julie knows the most important lesson of all: great managers are made, not born. If you care enough to be reading this, then you care enough to be a great manager. The Making of a Manager is a modern field guide packed everyday examples and transformative insights, including: How to tell a great manager from an average manager (illustrations included); When you should look past an awkward interview and hire someone anyway; How to build trust with your reports through not being a boss; Where to look when you lose faith and lack the answers. Whether you're new to the job, a veteran leader, or looking to be promoted, this is the handbook you need to be the kind of manager you wish you had"--Dust jacket flap.

    Business & Management
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    17mentions
    15people
    2019–2025years
    94% recommend6% neutral

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    What Hacker News says

    1. maleldilJul 2025
      This is a great article. It echoes a lot of what I went through when transitioning to management. I can also recommend the book "The Making of a Manager", which covers similar ground in more detail.

      I have one criticism: no auto-play GIFs, please. They're so distracting. They could be better as short, pausable videos.

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    2. koliberNov 2023
      Things like personal development, organizational design, team maturity, marketing, and selling seem like strange and foreign soft skills and concepts that your either have and understands, or not. There are models, mental frameworks, playbooks, and tools bring structure and rigor to these seemingly soft concepts. Engineers tend to have more analytical minds, and once you connect these things with the analytical “engine,” it becomes easier to understand and apply these concepts to management. In a way, the soft skills become more like hard skills.

      Management learning is best done through a combination of theoretical learning, deliberate practice, and hands-on coaching. The theory comes from books and other reading maerials (see below). Deliberate practice comes from using that theory in everyday situations. Coaching comes from an experienced manager via one-on-ones, or an external coach.

      If you go with the "external" route, find someone who seems to "speak your language" and understands your business challenges. I offer such coaching for companies who want help developing their engineering managers and would be happy to connect (see my HN profile for contact info).

      Here are some resources for new engineering managers that I routinely use:

      https://themanagershandbook.com/

      Book: The Making of a Manager

      - A first person account of what you may discover and learn as you grow as a manager.

      - Lots of concrete tips intermingled with personal stories.

      - Great for discovering what you don't know that you don't know about management

      Book: High Output Management, by Andy Grove

      For those that got the basic hang of things, and want to go to the source. Don't let the fact that it was written in the last century turn you off. The book is somewhat dry and academic. At the same time it is dense with information and advice that largely stood the test of time. This book is concrete, clear, and to the point.

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    3. koliberMay 2023
      If you have an interest in the managerial career track, talk to you manager. In engineering it’s relatively rare for people who are good developers to be interested in management.

      There are two books I highly recommend to anyone considering this move. The Manager’s Path is one. The Making of a Manager is the other.

      If you have any concrete questions, I’d be happy to answer them. Contact info is in the profile.

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    4. lansteinMar 2023
      Advice to Founders and CEOs

      - Dear Founder (Maynard Webb) - The Hard Things About Hard Things (Ben Horowitz) - Straight Talk for Startups (Randy Komisar and Jantoon Reigersman) - The Founders’ Dilemmas (Noam Wasserman) - The Entrepreneur’s Daily Nietzsche (Brad Feld and Dave Jilk) - Build (Tony Fadell) - Zero to IPO (Frederic Kerrest) - The Great CEO Within (Matt Mochary)

      Finance

      - Wharton's Introduction to Financial Accounting course: [https://www.coursera.org/learn/wharton-accounting](https://w... - How Finance Works: The HBR Guide to Thinking Smart About the Numbers (Mihir Desai) - Financial Intelligence for Entrepreneurs: What You Really Need to Know About the Numbers (Karen Berman and Joe Knight)

      Open-Book Company (Employee Ownership, Financial Literacy, Goal-setting)

      - The Great Game of Business (Jack Stack and Bo Burlingham)

      Legal

      - Acceleration (Ryan Roberts) - The Entrepreneur’s Guide to Law and Strategy (Constance Bagley and Craig Dauchy)

      Company Strategy and Direction (post-product/market fit)

      - Crossing the Chasm (Geoff Moore) - Zone to Win (Geoff Moore) - Only the Paranoid Survive (Andy Grove) - Blitzscaling (Reid Hoffman and Chris Yeh) - The Innovator's Dilemma (Clayton Christensen) - Good to Great (Jim Collins) - Playing to Win (A.G. Lafley and Roger Martin) - Tape Sucks (Frank Slootman) - Strategy vol. 1&2 (Harvard Business Review)

      Pricing

      - Monetizing Innovation (Georg Tacke and Madhavan Ramanujan) - Confessions of the Pricing Man (Hermann Simon)

      Startup Phase

      - The Lean Startup (Eric Ries) - The Four Steps to the Epiphany (Steve Blank) - Zero to One (Peter Thiel)

      Management/Leadership

      - The Effective Executive (Peter Drucker) - Managing Humans (Michael Lopp) - The Art of Leadership (Michael Lopp) - High Output Management (Andy Grove) - Managing Oneself (Peter Drucker) - Essentials: Management (First Round Capital) - The Making of a Manager (Julie Zhuo) - The Powell Principles (Oren Harari) - Radical Candor (Kim Scott) - Leading Matters (John L. Hennessy) (fantastic book list in the coda) - Turn the Ship Around (L. David Marquet) (this is THE book on delegation) - Principles (Ray Dalio)

      COO/Succession Planning

      - Riding Shotgun (Nathan Bennett and Stephen A. Miles)

      People Performance/HR/Culture

      - Powerful (Patty McCord) - No Rules Rules (Reed Hastings and Erin Meyer) - Netflix culture deck - The Five Dysfunctions of a Team (Patrick Lencioni) - Work Rules! (Laszlo Bock) - It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work (DHH and Jason Fried) - The Culture Map (Erin Meyer) - The Talent War (Mike Sarraille and George Randle) - Great People Decisions (Claudio Fernández-Aráoz) - The Holloway Guide to Technical Recruiting and Hiring (Ozzie Osman) - Punished by Rewards (Alfie Kohn)

      Purpose, Passion, and Self

      - Start with Why (Simon Sinek) - What You Do is Who You Are (Ben Horowitz) - Drive (Daniel Pink) - Mindset (Carol Dweck) - Grit (Angela Duckworth) - The Almanack of Naval Ravikant (Eric Jorgenson)

      Fundraising/VC

      - Secrets of Sand Hill Road (Scott Kupor) - Venture Deals (Brad Feld and Jason Mendelson) - Raising Venture Capital (Andy Sparks) - The Business of Venture Capital (Mahendra Ramsinghani) - Done Deals (Udayan Gupta) - The Power Law (Sebastian Mallaby) - VC (Tom Nicholas)

      Board

      - Boardroom Excellence (Paul Brountas) - Startups Boards (Brad Feld and Mahendra Ramsinghani)

      M&A

      - Winning (Jack Welch) - M&A chapter - Connecting the Dots (John Chambers) - M&A chapter

      Marketing

      - Data-Driven Marketing (Mark Jeffery) - Positioning (Al Ries and Jack Trout) - Scientific Advertising (Claude Hopkins) - Traction (Gabriel Weinberg and Justin Mares) - Behind the Cloud (Marc Benioff and Carlye Adler) - Ogilvy on Advertising (David Ogilvy) - Marketing High Technology (William Davidow)

      Psychology

      - Influence (Robert Cialdini)

      Negotiation

      First, read Influence (under Psychology), then, in order

      - Thinking in Bets (Annie Duke) - Getting to Yes (Roger Fisher and William Ury) - Never Split the Difference (Chris Voss) - The Bald Truth (David Falk)

      Self

      - The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People (Stephen Covey)

      Design and UX

      - Creative Confidence (Tom Kelley and David Kelley)

      AI (Machine Learning, Deep Learning/Neural Networks)

      - Andrew Ng's AI for Everyone course: [https://www.coursera.org/learn/ai-for-everyone](https://www....

      Growth (Data Science, etc.)

      - Hacking Growth (Sean Ellis and Morgan Brown)

      Graph Theory

      Product

      - Inspired (Marty Cagan) - Joel on Software (Joel Spolsky)

      Customer Loyalty/Customer Success

      - Delivering Happiness (Tony Hsieh) - Setting the Table (Danny Meyer)

      Finding a Startup Job

      - Entering StartupLand (Jeffrey Bussgang)

      CIO as ICP

      - The CIO Paradox (Martha Heller) - Be the Business (Martha Heller)

      Stories

      - Made in America (Sam Walton) - Shoe Dog (Phil Knight) - The Everything Store (Brad Stone) - Built from Scratch (Bernie Marcus and Arthur Blank) - Hard Drive (James Wallace) - Steve Jobs (Walter Isaacson) - Elon Musk (Ashlee Vance) - Creativity, Inc. (Ed Catmull) - The Ride of a Lifetime (Bob Iger) - Valley of Genius (Adam Fisher) - The Idea Factory (Jon Gertner) - Dealers of Lightning (Michael Hertzik) - Idea Man (Paul Allen) - Pour Your Heart Into It (Howard Schultz)

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    5. fallmonkeyFeb 2022
      I'd recommend Julie Zhuo's The Making of a Manager. She's got a twitter https://twitter.com/joulee where you could check out her sharing of managerial wisdom to have your own gauge.

      This book focuses on the practical side like sharing useful feedback, smart recruiting strategy and meeting optimization, all towards the goal of greater outcome and amplifying team success, instead of just more activities entailed by conventional manager model.

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    6. ykat7Jul 2021
      This was a nice succinct writeup. On the topic, here are some books I'd recommend for ICs making the jump to a manager role (or thinking about it):

      1. The Making of a Manager (https://www.amazon.com/Making-Manager-What-Everyone-Looks-eb...)

      2. The Manager's Path (https://www.amazon.com/Managers-Path-Leaders-Navigating-Grow...)

      3. Crucial Conversations (https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Conversations-Talking-Stakes-...)

      4. The Coaching Habit (https://www.amazon.com/Coaching-Habit-Less-Change-Forever-eb...)

      5. The Five Dysfunctions of a Team (https://www.amazon.com/Five-Dysfunctions-Team-Leadership-Len...)

      I'm still due to read High Output Management (https://www.amazon.com/High-Output-Management-Andrew-Grove-e...) and Extreme Ownership (https://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Ownership-U-S-Navy-SEALs-eboo...).

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