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    Cover of Fall; or, Dodge in Hell

    Fall; or, Dodge in Hell

    Neal Stephenson, Malcolm Hillgartner · 2019

    "In his youth, Richard "Dodge" Forthrast founded Corporation 9592, a gaming company that made him a multibillionaire. Now in his middle years, Dodge appreciates his comfortable, unencumbered life, managing his myriad business interests, and spending time with his beloved niece Zula and her young daughter, Sophia. One beautiful autumn day, while he undergoes a routine medical procedure, something goes irrevocably wrong. Dodge is pronounced brain dead and put on life support, leaving his stunned family and close friends with difficult decisions. Long ago, when a much younger Dodge drew up his will, he directed that his body be given to a cryonics company now owned by enigmatic tech entrepreneur Elmo Shepherd. Legally bound to follow the directive despite their misgivings, Dodge's family has his brain scanned and its data structures uploaded and stored in the cloud, until it can eventually be revived. In the coming years, technology allows Dodge's brain to be turned back on. It is an achievement that is nothing less than the disruption of death itself. An eternal afterlife--the Bitworld--is created, in which humans continue to exist as digital souls. But this brave new immortal world is not the Utopia it might first seem... Fall, or Dodge in Hell is pure, unadulterated fun: a grand drama of analog and digital, man and machine, angels and demons, gods and followers, the finite and the eternal.

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    1. the__alchemistAug 2026
      Three broad notes:

      - I'm team GUI! The author outline elegantly why. Sometimes I put command-line-like things in the GUI; I generally view it as a superset of CLI, with vastly richer capabilities. This is kind of interesting in the bioinformatics/structural bio space, which I feel is inherently visual, and benefits from 2d layouts. Most of the tools are CLI and based in I/O of stdout and text-based files. I am taking a different direction!

      > Back in 1999, Neal Stephenson wrote an essay about command line interfaces that set the field of human-computer interaction back about 20 years. In it, he depicts the priesthood of Unix nerds wielding CLIs as powerful Morlocks, holding the entire computing industry on their shoulders. The Eloi use GUIs like Microsoft Word. Because this is high-test fan-service, “In The Beginning Was The Command Line” has become one of our field’s sacred texts, despite very little of it holding up 25 years later.

      We should not take Sci-Fi and creative plot devices as predictions for the future. They can be inspirations and motivations for your own creativity, if tempered by realistic expectations and discipline. Neal Stephenson is especially prescient (Certain concepts from Fall; or Dodge in Hell and Anathem are hitting home strongly right now!). He spins vibrant, speculative yarns, mixing concepts, and estimating trajectories. The story referenced he is one that's in particular easy to see what parts did and didn't pan out. (And what Neal's more recent reflections on it say)

      I think there is a bit of cultural identity (Which we are genetically inclined to insert in all sorts of places!) going on. There is a certain cyberpunk fun in SSHing a terminal, pipeling stdout/in together, and Viming. I suspect there is a high overlap between people for whom Linux is part of their identity, TUI use is as well. I.e, it's not about a practical weighing of merits; standard identity/tribal-based choices.

      FOr use of TUI as a general file browser/command-executor... I've made my own. It's a GUI, and has built-in terminal for executing commands, with a visual file browser. And most importantly: Shortcuts to execute commonly-used workflows, history, bookmarks etc. All of which I feel like are glaring things missing from standard terminals. (PS, Bash etc). And having a terminal as one part of a multi-window program feels like a good use of my screen space!

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    2. abecodeMar 2026
      Fall, Or Dodge in Hell (Neil Stephenson) and The Waves (Ken Liu) are two other good stories about brain scanning and transhumanism. The first one is a ridiculously long novel about a future where the cloud is increasingly used for uploading souls of scanned brains, and the second one is a short story where people on a spaceship eventually evolve into noncorporal beings.
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    3. krunckMar 2026
      Suggested (fiction) reading: "Fall; or, Dodge in Hell" by Neal Stephenson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall%3B_or%2C_Dodge_in_Hell
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    4. peddling-brinkFeb 2026
      This was a minor sub-plot to Fall; or, Dodge in Hell by Neal Stephenson. Excellent book.

      The defense must scale with the offense. We’ll have agents to cut through the noise.

      And then, maybe someone can finally design the Torment Nexus..

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    5. the__alchemistAug 2025
      The Stephenson book "Fall, or; Dodge in Hell" has an interesting, and more realistic narrative of an Ameristan fragmented into tribes that have inconsistent narrative and knowledge of the world. It deals with the concept of a "post-truth society", and is something I can see us sliding towards.
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    6. the__alchemistApr 2025
      There's a good deal of sci-fi on the topic. My favorite of them is Neal Stephenson's Fall; or, Dodge in Hell.
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