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    Cover of The Jefferson Bible

    The Jefferson Bible

    Thomas Jefferson · 2011

    Contains the chronicles of Jesus from the New Testament, selected and arranged from the original text by President Jefferson himself.

    Religion & SpiritualityBiography & Memoir
    Open LibraryAmazon
    Stats for nerds
    3recommend
    13mentions
    9people
    2007–2025years
    31% recommend62% neutral8% critical

    Mentions per year

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    What Hacker News says

    1. WorldMakerNov 2025
      As an atheist, I do find some use for the Jefferson Bible. (US Founding Father) Thomas Jefferson collected all the best parts of the Gospels, dropped the miracles, some of the stranger allegories, but kept all the sermons (the things Jesus was said to have directly taught). It's about 14 "letter" pages, so almost "pamphlet" sized. As far as I'm concerned it finds most of the baby in the bathwater (IMO, so much bathwater), is an easy read, and says some things much more succinctly that I think a lot of Christians might be surprised to find are core teachings of Jesus in the Bible.

      I sometimes wonder what the country would be like if every hotel desk was more likely to have a copy of the Jefferson Bible than the Gideon Bible.

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    2. WorldMakerJan 2025
      Something I've found helpful in my studies trying to square my own atheism with the faith of my parents and grandparents and trying to figure out how much of Xian faith to throw out with the bathwater, is how much it started to feel apparent that most of the blame for all this rests somewhat squarely with Paul. It's Paul's huge mansplaining-energy Letters that bulk up the New Testament with their Make the Roman Empire Great Again rhetoric [1]. It's Paul's Letters that do so much of the work to set the conservative "faith not deeds" and patriarchal "tithe to the church as the new Empire" problems. It Paul's Letters that most directly retcon the actual "services and deeds over beliefs" (and liberalism and disregard for the Roman Empire) of Jesus' actual messages in the Gospels. It's Paul's Letters that are so especially focused on the afterlife over the current life, in part because Paul wrote those letters as passive aggressive threats of war.

      I've about gotten to the point where I feel I can suggest that I will attend services with my family if I can get them agree that there will be no readings from any of Paul's Letters. That's a hard request to make sometimes because my family isn't evangelical but Roman Catholic, and Paul is hugely respected still by the Roman Catholic church (for the obvious reasons that it is the church that Paul most directly built). But it is slowly giving me a framework of being able to say here's where I have problems with your faith and here's what I like about the faith: the gospels minus the miracles, and the actual teachings of Jesus. (Unsurprisingly one of my favorite versions of the Bible is the Jefferson Bible. It's pamphlet sized. It might be so much better for the world if it replaced all the Gideon's Bibles. Also, I can recommend A Gospel for Liberals by Todd Eklof as another great view of the gospels.)

      [1] Very literally, so. Most of the "to" groups were conquests of the Roman Empire either threatening to leave or already left.

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    3. willciprianoMar 2022
      Check out the Jefferson Bible. I'm a fan of Christ but consider him one of the great moral philosophers instead of the son of god. This reading of the surmon on the mount moves me even though I'm not religious: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-3nN9-C1yKU
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    4. ickyDec 2007
      Fiction:

      - The Time Machine (still holds up very well, and seems strangely eerie and prescient in places)... (H. G. Wells)

      - Dune (Frank Herbert)

      - The Hobbit (and LotR) (Tolkien)

      - Neuromancer (William Gibson)

      - Idoru, All Tomorrow's Parties (I picked up Idoru first, so I haven't yet read Virtual Light) (also Gibson)

      - The Difference Engine (Gibson, Sterling)

      - Snow Crash (Neal Stephenson)

      - Cryptonomicon (" ")

      - Circuit of Heaven, End of Days (Dennis Danvers)

      - All of the "Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser" stories and novels. (Fritz Leiber)

      - The Earthsea trilogy (Ursula K. LeGuin)

      - 'salem's Lot (Stephen King)

      - Stranger in a Strange Land (Heinlein)

      - Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (Twain)

      - the Coldfire trilogy (C. S. Friedman)

      - various Cory Doctorow short stories

      - Kamikaze L'Amour (Richard Kadrey)

      - Lightpaths (Howard V. Hendrix)

      - A Canticle For Leibowitz (Walter M. Miller, Jr.)

      - Moonwar, Venus (Ben Bova)

      - the Stainless Steel Rat series (Harry Harrison)

      - Treasure Island (Robert Louis Stevenson)

      - Ringworld (Larry Niven)

      - Cthon (Piers Anthony) -- Trippiness level approaching Philip Jose Farmer ;-)

      - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series (Douglas Adams)

      - The Black Company (Glen Cook)

      - there's one particularly good post-cyberpunk series that takes place in a world in which Canada emerged as a major world power, but for the life of me I can't rememeber the title.

      - the 1632 series (Eric Flint)... see also S. M. Stirling's Nantucket series ("Island in the Sea of Time", et al.), and H. Beam Piper's novel Kalvan of Otherwhen

      Non-fiction:

      - An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding (Hume)

      - the surviving words and works of Epicurus, and Diogenes the Cynic

      - Freakonomics (Levitt, Dubner)

      - The Gay Science (Nietzsche)

      - The Jefferson Bible (Christ, Jefferson (ed.))

      - The Devil's Dictionary (Bierce)

      - Brain Droppings (George Carlin)

      - anything by P. J. O'Rourke

      - anything by Dave Barry

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    5. WorldMakerNov 2025
      Thomas Jefferson knew Greek and Latin (was a "polymath" of the old Enlightenment era sort) and used somewhat more original sources than King James, translating them himself into English. He probably did cross-check the King James Edition for some of the English wording, or at least couldn't entirely escape its orbit/gravitational pull, but it is mostly true the Jefferson Bible was a fresh early-American translation.
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    6. somenameformeJun 2024
      This is such an extremely interesting comment, given the context of this conversation, because it sums up so much with so little. There is indeed overwhelming documentation (and other evidence) of Jesus' existence [1], and essentially no doubt of such. The Bible in general corresponds quite well with historic evidence on most topics*. Where it diverges from history is obviously in the divine.

      But does this mean one shouldn't be able to publicly express doubt of Jesus' existence? I would say no. Because while there is both overwhelming evidence and consensus, there was also overwhelming evidence and consensus for the Earth being the center of the universe. And the greatest leaps in society's state of knowledge tends to come from the times when these 'things everybody knows' end up simply being wrong.

      It's okay to say, or even believe, things that are most likely wrong. The whole point about Freedom is having the Freedom to make choices, even when those choices or views may not be what somebody else would consider appropriate. When such choices become sufficiently detrimental, like theft or murder, we prohibit them by law. But prohibiting having the 'wrong view' just seems very myopic. If you change your view after reading those articles, that's cool. If you don't (or even more likely don't even check them out), that's also cool.

      [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sources_for_the_historicity_of...

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      * = Interestingly this exact observation led Thomas Jefferson, who created his own sort of sect-of-1 Christianity, to compose his own Bible, the Jefferson Bible [2]. He took all the likely factual context and writings in the bible, and removed all the supernatural aspects of it - essentially turning it into a historical text with moral lessons. Quite a shame no copies remain.

      [2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible

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