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    Webtide Blog

    webtide.com · Company blog · on HN since 2012

    The blog of Webtide, the company behind the Jetty Java server, covering HTTP/2, threading, and Jetty releases.

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    What HN says

    HN links it in discussions of Loom virtual threads, with posts showing a million virtual threads and Jetty support, while commenters raise caution about heap use.

    Stats for nerds
    17HN people shared it
    11linked in comments
    91story points
    Aug 2023last shared
    2012people per year2023

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      The “Eat What You Kill” execution strategy (2015)
      2 people · 71 points · first shared 2019 · 1 comments on HN
    2. 2
      Do Loom’s Claims Stack Up? Part 1: Millions of Threads?
      3 people · 5 points · first shared 2020 · Discussion on HN
    3. 3
      HTTP/2 Last Call
      2 people · 5 points · first shared 2014 · Discussion on HN
    4. 4
      Unix Sockets for Jetty 9.4?
      1 person · 3 points · first shared 2016 · 1 comments on HN
    5. 5
      Renaming Jetty from Javax.* To Jakarta
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2019 · Discussion on HN
    6. 6
      End of Life: Changes to Eclipse Jetty and CometD (2025)
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2026 · Discussion on HN
    7. 7
      If Virtual Threads are the solution, what is the problem?
      1 person · 1 points · first shared 2023 · Discussion on HN
    8. 8
      Jetty 10 and 11 Have Arrived
      1 person · 1 points · first shared 2020 · Discussion on HN
    9. 9
      Eat What You Kill Without Starvation
      1 person · 1 points · first shared 2020 · Discussion on HN
    10. 10
      Homepage
      1 person · first shared 2012

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • piokochApr 2023

      While this is definitely a good new, we need to be very careful. Why? Those new fancy threads are stored on heap and need to be garbage collected. If you buy into ads and believe that you can create for free millions of threads, then, well, it is not gonna work on production.

      Because of this server based on new threads does not need to be more performant, Jetty server guys tested this and they were not that happy: https://webtide.com/do-looms-claims-stack-up-part-1/

      Before getting too excited I advise to watch Tomasz Nurkiewicz lecture on the subject - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_XRUljffu0, it explains what are the trade-offs here.

      No silver bullet, again.

    • ck2Mar 2012

      Now added to the small list of SPDY enabled sites as I find them:

      https://www.webtide.com/
      https://twitter.com
      https://spdytest.com
      https://spdy-twitlog.indutny.com
      https://www.codecentric.de
      (and of course google.com, gmail and youtube.com)

      Of course the number will explode in a few months but fun to know the handful in the "early days".

      ps. SPDY indicator for Firefox 11+ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/spdy-indicator/

    • 75dvtwinFeb 2019

      Take a look at conscrypt

      https://github.com/google/conscrypt

      According to reports into Jetty folks, using conscript for TLS, gives 10x improvements

      https://webtide.com/conscrypting-native-ssl-for-jetty/

      Note, that, from what I read, conscrypt is not compiled for any of the BSDs so if you are testing there, you will have to compile conscrypt yourself

    • egberts1Jan 2023

      I think you are on to something here and it is more about http/1.3 than http/1.1.

      I am actively rejecting HTTP/2 purposely after the findings of my network protocol security analysis of the many HTTP/2 variants. It reminds me of the classic overlapping IP fragmentation packets (Windows vs. BSD).

      https://webtide.com/rfc7230/

    • bullenSep 2020

      https://webtide.com/servlets-must-die-slowly/

      No comments there, but you can read about his probable contributions to the continuations API in later posts maybe?

      Sure we all try to implement HTTP the best we can, the difference is how fast and efficiently we do it.

    • vladaionescuMay 2015

      From what I could find online, there are no plans to include websockets as part of HTTP/2 (according to this: https://webtide.com/http2-last-call/ ). HTTP/2 is meant to supersede all websocket use cases.

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