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    Rogue Amoeba Weblog

    weblog.rogueamoeba.com · Company blog · on HN since 2013

    The weblog of Rogue Amoeba, a Mac audio software maker, covering macOS changes, app distribution, and Apple platform issues.

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    What HN says

    HN links it for Mac development history and platform issues, such as AirPlay 2 support, sandboxing troubles, and the RIAA v. Steve Jobs story.

    Stats for nerds
    48HN people shared it
    51linked in comments
    1Kstory points
    Aug 2025last shared
    2017people per year2025

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      A bug saved the company
      2 people · 385 points · first shared 2025 · 131 comments on HN
    2. 2
      On the Sad State of Macintosh Hardware
      3 people · 317 points · first shared 2018 · 332 comments on HN
    3. 3
      Making More Outside The App Store
      3 people · 119 points · first shared 2017 · 55 comments on HN
    4. 4
      AppleTV 6.0 requires Fairplay-DRM Airplay Sources
      1 person · 101 points · first shared 2013 · 75 comments on HN
    5. 5
      Rogue Amoeba software no longer requires reduced security or extensions
      7 people · 19 points · first shared 2024 · 1 comments on HN
    6. 6
      macOS Sierra and Gatekeeper Path Randomization
      3 people · 18 points · first shared 2016 · 22 comments on HN
    7. 7
      Removing macOS 26 Tahoe's unwanted menu icons
      4 people · 9 points · first shared 2026 · Discussion on HN
    8. 8
      The RIAA vs. Steve Jobs
      3 people · 8 points · first shared 2023 · 1 comments on HN
    9. 9
      Free The Icons: Apple should end their prohibition on shapes in macOS app icons
      2 people · 6 points · first shared 2026 · Discussion on HN
    10. 10
      macOS 15.2 Brings More Audio Bug Fixes
      1 person · 6 points · first shared 2024 · Discussion on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • chrisfinazzoJul 2019

      Sigh, you're just not getting it, sorry to say.

      I have NO TROUBLE imagining that Apple will continue to tighten the screws on this, enforcing signing through Developer TOS and requiring MAS apps to pay for distribution certs.

      Direct download isn't going away, not after all the work that's gone into securing it, but if you think you can sell an app off your own site without giving Apple some identifiable info about who you are and what your code does, prepare to be disappointed.

      Runtimes won't be disallowed, just that you (the user) are responsible for installing them and keeping things updated.

      Oh, and for record, my reference to "Perry the Cynic" is no accident...he literally invented how code signing works.

      https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2008/03/07/code-signing-and-you/#comment-318

      https://red-sweater.com/blog/514/development-phase-code-signing#comment-144236

      http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN%2F7103779

      http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=8&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=Kiehtreiber.INNM.&OS=in/Kiehtreiber&RS=IN/Kiehtreiber

    • rgovostesJan 2025

      Delicious Library was the start of a gilded age of Mac shareware focused on style over substance.

      > In the past year or so, Mac development had shifted from applications providing new functionality that appeared at the dawn of OS X to applications (and ideas) built around flash and sizzle, with plenty of marketing hype to fuel the fire. his had created something of a toxic atmosphere in the Mac development world. A rift between the old school, with its plain but functional apps, and the new school of flashy but frivolous apps, has developed. ... I dubbed this new school “The Delicious Generation”.

      https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2006/11/06/the-delicious-generation/

      Apple adopted a similar interface for Newsstand on iOS and it seemed to be widely reviled during the pushback against skeuomorphism.

    • krackersFeb 2023

      I miss disco so much. Back from the Delicious Era [1] of apps that were functional yet had character and play.

      [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2007/05/the-delicious-generation-strikes-back/

      I wholly disagree with rogueamoeba's assessment that these were "style over substance". They were dead-simple to use, and you could always disable the smoke if you hated fun. They may not have all the bells and whistles of the bloated 40MB disc burning suite, but if all you wanted to do was burn a linux iso or transfer some songs to stick in your car stereo, this was the go-to tool for the job.

      https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2006/11/06/

      Also I find it ironic that rogueamoeba lambasts the "delicious generation" when I think their Piezo app would fit right into it.

    • camtarnFeb 2017

      For context, the app (Piezo) in question was removed from the Mac App Store (not the iOS App Store, as I first assumed on reading!) by its developers.

      It's an audio recorder which can record audio from other apps. The App Store introduced a sandbox which prevented the app from working, but they got around that by simply not updating the app and thus retaining the ability to work outside the sandbox. However, other apps introduced changes which broke Piezo, and which needed a fix which couldn't be distributed via App Store, finally killing that methods of distribution.

      https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2016/02/12/piezo-1-5-arrives-piezo-exits-the-mac-app-store/

    • paulkafasisFeb 2017

      That is quite correct. When we removed Piezo from the Mac App Store a year ago, we didn't send out a press release, nor seek publicity over this move in any way. We simply removed it and explained why on our blog (https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2016/02/12/piezo-1-5-arrives-piezo-exits-the-mac-app-store/). That was it.

      We can certainly debate how well-established or tech-savvy our users are (though I will note that Piezo is by far our simplest application, and used by the least technically savvy among our user base). But to say that we did this in a “public fashion” is just false.

    • QerubAug 2022

      > […] Airfoil software does all this & more […]

      Not quite; Airfoil Satellite does not implement an AirPlay 2 receiver which is what this is all about. See https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2018/06/25/current-notes-on-airfoil-airplay-2/ :

      > Can Airfoil Satellite receive AirPlay 2 audio? Airfoil Satellite receives audio via the AirPlay 1 protocol. Because of this, it can’t currently be part of a multi-speaker group receiving audio from iOS.

      Still a great piece of software (that I also can recommend).

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