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    Tuxphones

    tuxphones.com · Publication · on HN since 2019

    Tuxphones covers Linux phones and handhelds, including Librem 5 and PinePhone comparisons, postmarketOS and ARM booting.

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    What HN says

    HN links it for its Linux phone comparisons and technical how-tos, such as using Linux as a second wireless display and booting ARM Linux.

    Stats for nerds
    36HN people shared it
    72linked in comments
    3.4Kstory points
    Mar 2025last shared
    2019people per year2025

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      A new wave of Linux applications
      2 people · 683 points · first shared 2022 · 564 comments on HN
    2. 2
      The PocketReform is a made-in-Berlin Linux handheld
      2 people · 403 points · first shared 2022 · 175 comments on HN
    3. 3
      Linux-based 4G phones with Google Assistant sold for $7 in Indonesia
      1 person · 309 points · first shared 2019 · 200 comments on HN
    4. 4
      An unexpected revival of Firefox OS
      1 person · 275 points · first shared 2022 · 158 comments on HN
    5. 5
      Doubling the PinePhone storage speed with a soldering iron
      1 person · 201 points · first shared 2021 · 60 comments on HN
    6. 6
      Using a Linux phone as a secondary monitor
      2 people · 172 points · first shared 2022 · 64 comments on HN
    7. 7
      Linux-ready, made-in-Germany “Volla Phone” succeeds on Kickstarter
      1 person · 154 points · first shared 2020 · 93 comments on HN
    8. 8
      The Pine Formula
      4 people · 141 points · first shared 2022 · 88 comments on HN
    9. 9
      Booting ARM Linux the standard way
      1 person · 139 points · first shared 2022 · 32 comments on HN
    10. 10
      Purism Librem 14 review (part 1): The ethical flagship
      1 person · 127 points · first shared 2022 · 54 comments on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • autisticcurioAug 2020

      International standards can also be zero days. For example, the international standard for called ID, uses a dial up modem protocol which means the hardware has to have capabilities to read this data which means the hardware has dialup modem capabilities. So if you can compromise the firmware of the modem, a backdoor into a device is via the very telephone network you later rely on to communicate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caller_ID#Operation

      Chips fall into 3 categories, fused by manufacturer, fused by branding company, or not fused allowing future updates, like bios chips.
      Even if the chip is fused, a backdoor may still exist, in some cases standard behaviour can be the backdoor.

      With zero days appearing in hardware, software and standards, its very easy if you have the knowledge to get a persistent backdoor into a device beit a PinePhone, Librem 5 or Necunos to name just a couple.
      https://forums.puri.sm/t/comparing-specs-of-upcoming-linux-phones/6827
      https://tuxphones.com/yet-another-librem-5-and-pinephone-linux-smartphone-comparison/
      Its probably why people like Cobham, Thales and other openly public military manufacturers make their own kits for militaries around the world.
      https://www.cobham.com/
      https://www.thalesgroup.com/en

      I even think its possible to hack the communication systems of the new Lockheed Martin F35, because the manufacturers are walking a logical development path (their mistake), but I've yet to have a go at it, so cant say for sure…

    • beefletMar 2025

      It works pretty nicely on linux, you have "mobile" environments like phosh, KDE mobile and that are pretty seamless between handheld and docked "desktop" usage. They have support in app toolkits like gtk and qt for applications that change based on screen size to accommodate mobile users. It's pretty nice: https://tuxphones.com/convergent-linux-phone-apps/

      The reason why it didn't work for microsoft is because adobe, valve, and aren't going to whatever framework just because microsoft wants them to. But in the linux world you can just fork and fix. Even apple has a lot of leverage to force developers to act in a certain way if they want that app store $$$.

      Obviously the hardware isn't all there yet in the open source world (the pinephones are pretty underpowered), but in terms of software all of the right stuff is there. And don't tell me the UX is too complicated for new users. Gnome's design is literally a ripoff of MacOS and KDE's interface is pretty much Windows.

    • DCKingJan 2021

      It's worth noting that the M1 does not use EFI like Intel Macs do, so the kernel would still need to boot on this proprietary new mechanism. Apple previously indicated that the M1 Macs boot using a derivative of the iPhone/iPad boot procedure. There's a reasonable chance it'll still have something like the EFI buffer allocation mechanism, but it'll not be using a mainline standard. While it sucks that Apple ditched EFI, the good news is that it's probably reasonably well understood since Linux has already been booted on an iPhone 7 using Checkra1n [1] (and apparently with framebuffer support too!).

      [1]: https://tuxphones.com/iphone-7-now-boots-postmarketos-linux/

    • yargMay 2023

      I don't really know to be honest.

      But there's this that might be worth reading: https://tuxphones.com/purism-librem-5-vs-pine64-pinephone-linux-smartphone-comparison/

      > On the other hand, Pine64 opted for a community-based approach: they provide the base hardware and OS to users and developers, and the community develops the needed software to make it run. postmarketOS and (Ubports) Ubuntu Touch developers have already ported their OS to the PinePhone development kits, and KDE Plasma Mobile will be the primary desktop designed for this phone. About $10 for each device will be donated to open source projects.

    • ognarbOct 2021

      Create apps! This is the most needed. We created a tutorial for Kirigami here: https://develop.kde.org/docs/kirigami/. There are also a few tutorials for GTK/libhandy with e.g. https://tuxphones.com/tutorial-developing-responsive-linux-smartphone-apps-gnome-builder-gtk-libhandy-gtk-part-1/

      Also join the developer channels on matrix: #plasmamobile:kde.org (not sure that the address for the GNOME one)

    • thinkmassiveDec 2019

      The PinePhone actually has more kill switches for finer grained control, but they’re behind the rear cover instead of exposed on the side.

      PP: modem, WiFi, microphones, rear camera, front camera

      L5: modem, WiFi, cameras+audio

      Check out this comparison by Martijn Braam, a developer of postmarketOS:
      https://tuxphones.com/yet-another-librem-5-and-pinephone-linux-smartphone-comparison

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