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    Andrew Gelman's Blog

    stat.columbia.edu/~cook · Personal blog · on HN since 2008

    Andrew Gelman is a Columbia statistician who writes about statistical practice, Bayesian methods, data graphics and research flaws.

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    What HN says

    Commenters cite his posts on the decline effect and on criticisms of Bayesian analysis. He is also invoked in data visualization arguments.

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    34HN people shared it
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    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      Bayesian stats book banned in China
      1 person · 159 points · first shared 2011 · 76 comments on HN
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      No problem, we'll adjust the data to fit the model
      1 person · 57 points · first shared 2010 · 14 comments on HN
    3. 3
      Skepticism about beautiful people having more daughters.
      1 person · 43 points · first shared 2009 · 9 comments on HN
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      Classics of statistics
      2 people · 34 points · first shared 2010 · 1 comments on HN
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      Review of RStudio (new IDE for R)
      1 person · 33 points · first shared 2011 · 7 comments on HN
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      Upper-income people still don't realize they're upper-income
      1 person · 19 points · first shared 2011 · 15 comments on HN
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      Correcting for the first-player advantage in Risk
      1 person · 15 points · first shared 2009 · 22 comments on HN
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      What is the probability your vote will make a difference? [pdf]
      1 person · 10 points · first shared 2009 · 7 comments on HN
    9. 9
      USA state-by-state per-capita Walmart vs. Starbucks
      1 person · 7 points · first shared 2008 · 4 comments on HN
    10. 10
      Watching faces on TV in the morning might cure depression
      1 person · 7 points · first shared 2008 · Discussion on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • llimllibJun 2010

      You appear to have your facts wrong. From the study[1]:

      > Eligible cases were all patients with a glioma or meningioma of the brain diagnosed in the study regions during study periods of 2–4 years between 2000 and 2004.

      So participants in the study lasted between 2 and 4 years. Since elevated rates of cancer were only found in the group with the highest usage[2], this means people with >=1640 hours of talk time, which means between 68 and 34 hours per month.

      Not two hours per month. And this is easy to sanity check; here's the study again:

      > Corresponding values for [median lifetime cumulative call time] glioma controls were 100 h lifetime, 2.5 h/month and about 2000 calls.

      So the median user used about 2.5 hours per month, not the heavy user.

      Now, let's hear them out a bit more:

      > Overall, no increase in risk of glioma or meningioma was observed with use of mobile phones. There were suggestions of an increased risk of glioma at the highest exposure levels, but biases and error prevent a causal interpretation. The possible effects of long-term
      heavy use of mobile phones require further investigation.

      It's also worth noting that you're using the word double somewhat duplicitously. Yes, the study found double the glioma rate in very heavy users (as discussed, much more than two hours per month), but it also found that the rest of cellphone users are less likely to get cancer than average.

      If we take your causal analysis seriously, then we should also take this…

    • utilJun 2010

      "The fallacy is that you're searching for a theory in a pile of data, rather than forming a theory and running an experiment to support or disprove it."
      But looking at data is an important step in forming new hypotheses -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploratory_data_analysis . You may just want to then gather more data to independently check on your ideas. (And to go back to the runs example, isn't the problem that the announcers weren't willing to seriously consider an alternate hypothesis, ie, they weren't doing enough simultaneous estimation?)

      "Instead of running multiple AdWords variants each against multiple landing page variants each feeding a different website funnel, run just one experiment at a time, one variable at a time."
      I think this is bad advice. If there's an interaction between your variables, this will lead you to totally miss it. Even without interactions, it can be a more efficient use of resources to estimate the effects of multiple variables at a time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factorial_experiment

      Also, in this context, it seems worth looking at http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~cook/movabletype/archives/2008/03/why_i_dont_usua_1.html

    • tokenadultMar 2011

      Data on national comparisons of IQ are very poor.

      http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~cook/movabletype/archives/2010/04/jelte_wicherts.html

      http://wicherts.socsci.uva.nl/wichertsPAIDrejoinder.pdf

      http://wicherts.socsci.uva.nl/wichertsRavenAfr2010rej.pdf

      http://wicherts.socsci.uva.nl/APA02.pdf

      This is a hard issue to analyze when most countries don't gather data on IQ that are comparable at all from country to country, and when there is considerable disagreement about what we mean by "religion."

      It is becoming a firmly established research finding that rationality is weakly correlated with IQ,

      http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/stanovich1/English

      http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Psychology/CognitivePsychology/?view=usa&ci=9780195341140

      with many high-IQ individuals exhibiting extremely poor rationality, so even if we knew differing IQ distributions for countries around the world reliably, which we do not, we would have no idea from those statistics which countries have a populace that tends to act rationally.

    • 1053rJul 2010

      Perhaps this is why it generally takes a new generation of thinkers to push political thinking forward. I would postulate that we are more likely to reject the views of our parents than we are to reject our own.

      If that is true, it explains, for example, why gay marriage is a hot button issue for baby-boomers and older, but largely less of an issue for people under 30 (http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~cook/movabletype/archives/2009/06/future_trends_f_1.html).

      I'll bet racism data looked pretty similar a few decades ago, but now expressing racist views publicly will get you in trouble even if you are extremely conservative (that Republican politician from the south a couple years ago who got extreme negative publicity for calling blacks "monkeys").

      If it is necessary for one generation to die for political views to move forward, that doesn't bode well for progress if Aubrey de Grey and Ray Kurzweil prove prophetic. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgLRhxvRlKg) and (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_made_by_Ray_Kurzweil)

    • jaredmckFeb 2011

      On errors in the "abortion lowers crime" study
      http://isteve.blogspot.com/2005/11/im-shocked-shocked-to-see-this.html
      overview of freakonomics 2 and how it shouldn't have been surprising that the errors were numerous and more obvious than in the original, due to the authors being less familiar with the topics in addition to selection bias
      http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~cook/movabletype/archives/2009/10/freakonomics_up.html

      Detailed discussion of blatant, blatant errors on their article refuting climate change. Makes you wonder if they knew their contrarian position was weak, and still put it in the book for controversy and the headlines it brings.
      http://climateprogress.org/2009/10/12/superfreakonomics-errors-levitt-caldeira-myhrvold/

    • TichyJan 2008

      Interesting enough book, but I must admit, I was surprised at the low quality of most of the popular videos and YouTubers he links from the "book". Are these people making any money out of their YouTube fame? I guess with a little dedication (produce content in regular intervals), you can still get quite far on YouTube.

      I feel reminded of "seeing faces on TV in the morning might help against depression": http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~cook/movabletype/archives/2007/02/watching_faces.html

      Basically the guy found out that seeing talking faces in the morning lifts his mood. Perhaps that is all there is to the YouTube blogging phenomenon: people have a need to see talking faces, no matter what the faces actually say.

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