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    Jan Odvarko

    softwareishard.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2008

    Jan Odvarko, a Firebug developer, who writes about Firebug extensions and the HAR file format spec.

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    What HN says

    HN links it for the HAR 1.2 spec, the list of Firebug extensions, and Firebug tips such as styled logging.

    Stats for nerds
    20HN people shared it
    12linked in comments
    102story points
    Sep 2020last shared
    2009people per year2020

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      Eventbug Watch JavaScript events finally in Firebug
      1 person · 73 points · first shared 2009 · 8 comments on HN
    2. 2
      Firebug source base has been moved on github.com
      1 person · 7 points · first shared 2012 · 1 comments on HN
    3. 3
      Extending Firebug, Hello World! (Part I.)
      1 person · 5 points · first shared 2008 · Discussion on HN
    4. 4
      List of Firebug Extensions
      2 people · 3 points · first shared 2008 · 1 comments on HN
    5. 5
      Firebug 1.5: Break On Next
      1 person · 3 points · first shared 2009 · Discussion on HN
    6. 6
      Firebug HTTP Time Monitor - more accurate Network timings with Firefox 3.6
      1 person · 3 points · first shared 2009 · Discussion on HN
    7. 7
      Extending Firebug - 6 tutorials
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2008 · Discussion on HN
    8. 8
      Tabular logs in Firebug
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2010 · Discussion on HN
    9. 9
      Front-End Dev Tip: Break on HTML Mutation
      1 person · 1 points · first shared 2012 · Discussion on HN
    10. 10
      Hunting Zombie Memory Leaks in Firefox
      1 person · 1 points · first shared 2012 · Discussion on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • pimterrySep 2020

      I'm doing the same, with https://httptoolkit.tech/: the core features are free, but there's advanced extras that require an active subscription.

      I'm this exact case you cover: it's a powerful developer tool that's very connected to the network & captures the traffic of many of your other apps & devices. It _must_ stay up to date, or users could be at serious risk. Holding back updates from users would be irresponsible. I've noted this in the past, but never really spelled this out fully, and it's important context, thanks!

      For cases like ours, the upside of freemium over simple paid software though is that the end of the subscription doesn't completely shut down a user's life (unlike totally losing access to your IDE, or your cloud data), and you do need to ensure that. Instead the free user limits are put back into place, but those should generally make workflows inconvenient or less effective, and not catastrophically blocked.

      In my case, for example, free users lose the ability to import/export collected traffic, but the exported HTTP traffic is in a standardized format anyway (HAR: http://www.softwareishard.com/blog/har-12-spec/). Some automated built-in tools go away too, but manual workarounds exist for free, for immediate & short use cases. Those fallbacks & that portability ensure nobody is ever totally locked up by the end of a subscription.

      It's a very delicate balance (they need to be limited a bit, or nobody buys anything!) but it's been working well for me…

    • masklinnJul 2011

      > Firecookie http://www.softwareishard.com/blog/firecookie/

      Built into the Webkit Developer Tools

      > Firequery http://firequery.binaryage.com/

      jQuery objects visualisation (in console and inspector) are in the Developer Tools, rest is not (though the injection is a bookmarklet/browser extension away)

      > Firepicker http://thedarkone.github.com/firepicker/

      Missing indeed, Opera's Dragonfly has a color picker but the webkit devtools don't.

      > Jsonview http://jsonview.com/

      https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chklaanhfefbnpoihckbnefhakgolnmc

      https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ddngkjbldiejbheifcmnfmmfiniimbbg

      https://github.com/rfletcher/safari-json-formatter

      > Colorzilla http://www.colorzilla.com/firefox/

      https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hmdcmlfkchdmnmnmheododdhjedfccka ?

    • jorisdJun 2018

      This is very cool, solving some issues I no doubt many people have when writing tests against a (fast-)moving target. I'll definitely give it a try in my next project.

      I looked through the codebase, and noticed that this uses a custom data format to persist HTTP requests and responses in local storage. I'm not sure if it's technically possible in all circumstances, but I think it might be valuable to have requests and responses be stored as HAR 1.2 [1] when possible, so that the trace can be used by other tools [2] to aid in debugging, verifying and analyzing behaviour as well as perhaps automated creation of load/performance tests.

      [1] - http://www.softwareishard.com/blog/har-12-spec/

      [2] - e.g. https://toolbox.googleapps.com/apps/har_analyzer/

    • thoraxJan 2009

      There's also Firephp for getting the server to send additional trace data:
      http://www.firephp.org/

      EDIT:

      Also, this article has a good overview of multiple Firebug extensions:
      http://www.softwareishard.com/blog/firebug/list-of-firebug-extensions/

      I know some people who love PixelPerfect for transferring Photoshop mockups to CSS.

      Also one of the comments mentioned widerbug which I might try now that I have this weird 18.4" laptop:
      http://www.command-tab.com/2008/01/19/widerbug-widescreen-firebug/

    • mun2munJul 2011

      Firebug with

      Firecookie http://www.softwareishard.com/blog/firecookie/

      Firequery http://firequery.binaryage.com/

      Firepicker http://thedarkone.github.com/firepicker/

      Jsonview http://jsonview.com/

      Colorzilla http://www.colorzilla.com/firefox/

    • igrigorikOct 2012

      Confusingly enough, HTTPArchive.org, and HAR the file format are two different projects (although one depends on the other).

      httparchive.org - captures web trends
      http://www.softwareishard.com/blog/har-12-spec/ - HAR file format

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