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    Shawn Ligocki

    sligocki.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2021

    Shawn Ligocki, a Busy Beaver researcher, who writes about Turing machine champions, Collatz-like behavior, and the bbchallenge project.

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    What HN says

    Commenters call it a better source on actual Busy Beaver research than Aaronson's blog and praise its detailed explanations of hard machines.

    Stats for nerds
    20HN people shared it
    17linked in comments
    644story points
    Dec 2025last shared
    2023people per year2025

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      BB(3, 4) > Ack(14)
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    2. 2
      Latest Busy Beaver champion has too many digits to count
      1 person · 86 points · first shared 2022 · 18 comments on HN
    3. 3
      Collatz-like behavior of Busy Beavers
      5 people · 78 points · first shared 2021 · 9 comments on HN
    4. 4
      One Collatz Coincidence
      1 person · 78 points · first shared 2024 · 24 comments on HN
    5. 5
      BB(3, 3) is Hard
      2 people · 43 points · first shared 2023 · 2 comments on HN
    6. 6
      BB(6) Is Hard (Antihydra) (2024)
      3 people · 38 points · first shared 2024 · 11 comments on HN
    7. 7
      Hyper Scientific Notation for Unspeakably Large Numbers
      1 person · 4 points · first shared 2022 · 2 comments on HN
    8. 8
      BB(2, 5) is hard (Hydra)
      1 person · 4 points · first shared 2024 · 1 comments on HN
    9. 9
      Busy Beaver vs. Graham's Number
      1 person · 3 points · first shared 2022 · Discussion on HN
    10. 10
      BB (2,4) Proven
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2024 · Discussion on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • UncombedCoconutJul 2024

      Mostly no: we did find some non-halting TMs that required new proofs, but none of those had the flavor of new math, per se. Indeed, we found that all but 30 of them could be proved by finite automata methods, meaning the TM's state/tape at any step could be reduced to one of finitely many states and we'd still know all we needed to know about future steps. I would argue that such a non-halting proof can't have much mathematical content. (Maybe a bit, in about the same way that an integer equation is sometimes proved unsolvable by considering it modulo n and checking every case.) Also, I learned some math I wasn't personally familiar with from the analysis of a particular machine: https://www.sligocki.com/2023/03/14/skelet-10.html (Zeckendorf's Theorem).

    • LegionMammal978Jul 2024

      As far as I am aware, all of the proofs and techniques for each machine were present before mxdys managed to get the whole theorem into Coq: the main problem was that the deciders and manual proofs were disorganized and somewhat suspect. The worst offenders here were Skelet #1, which needed a bespoke program to accelerate it to its ultimate pattern [0], and Skelet #17, which took Xu seven pages' worth of dense reasoning to prove non-halting [1]. The full Coq proof put a much-needed degree of confidence into these results.

      [0] https://www.sligocki.com/2023/03/13/skelet-1-infinite.html

      [1] https://discuss.bbchallenge.org/t/skelet-17-does-not-halt/184

    • mchermNov 2023

      See also this article (shared on Hacker News 2 weeks ago): https://www.sligocki.com//2023/10/16/bb-3-3-is-hard.html

      Basically, they showed that a VERY small Turing Machine -- of a size many had hoped we would be able to exhaustively solve -- turns out to depend on whether something similar to the Collatz sequence ever haults.

      In other words, research published just 2 weeks ago shows that we don't need a Turing machine with a couple thousand states to be beyond the reach of modern human mathematics -- even one with just a few states can stimy us.

    • 7373737373Jul 2025

      Interesting new contender for simplest to state unsolved problem: The Antihydra

      Does this program halt?

      a = 8 b = 0 while b != -1: if a % 2 == 0: b += 2 else: b -= 1 a += a//2 (// being integer division, equivalently a binary shift one to the right: >> 1)

      https://www.sligocki.com/2024/07/06/bb-6-2-is-hard.html

      https://bbchallenge.org/antihydra

    • tigereyeTODec 2025

      I had no idea what this was talking about and followed links to a blog post that explained the first one ("Bigfoot"): https://www.sligocki.com/2023/10/16/bb-3-3-is-hard.html

      This blog post made the "cryptids" make a lot more sense to me, so I thought I'd share that post here in case others were also wondering "what the **"

    • daynthelifeOct 2023

      The “<A” notation indicates that the head of the Turing machine is positioned at the rightmost point to the left of the “<“, and is in state A. [0]

      For instance, the notation `0^\inf 1^3 <B 0^2 1 0^\inf` is equivalent to `0^\inf 1 1 (B1) 0 0 1 0^\inf`.

      [0] https://www.sligocki.com/2021/07/17/bb-collatz.html

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