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    Ben Bonds

    plover.net/~bonds · Personal blog · on HN since 2008

    Ben Bonds writes critical essays on logical fallacies, skepticism, Bayesian reasoning, and how people respond to criticism.

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    What HN says

    HN commenters cite his essays on ad hominem, the cult of Bayes, and "Your baloney detection kit sucks" as rebuttals in arguments about fallacies and Bayesianism.

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    50HN people shared it
    11linked in comments
    445story points
    Feb 2014last shared
    2008people per year2014

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      Logical Fallacies Are Usually Irrelevant or Cited Incorrectly
      8 people · 176 points · first shared 2013 · 126 comments on HN
    2. 2
      Why I am no longer a skeptic
      7 people · 127 points · first shared 2011 · 121 comments on HN
    3. 3
      What constitutes a true ad hominem argument?
      16 people · 48 points · first shared 2008 · 22 comments on HN
    4. 4
      Ender's Game Review
      1 person · 46 points · first shared 2008 · 99 comments on HN
    5. 5
      ASDF - a badly-drawn webcomic of trite, feelgood, preachy... (anti-xkcd)
      3 people · 30 points · first shared 2008 · 11 comments on HN
    6. 6
      The Cult of Bayes' Theorem
      5 people · 9 points · first shared 2013 · 2 comments on HN
    7. 7
      Positivist Programming
      3 people · 5 points · first shared 2013 · Discussion on HN
    8. 8
      Fifteen Stupid Responses to Criticism
      2 people · 2 points · first shared 2008 · Discussion on HN
    9. 9
      The Banality of Genius
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2013 · Discussion on HN
    10. 10
      Genderedlanguage
      2 people · first shared 2008

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • tommorrisNov 2012

      An ad hominem isn't just any time you say something mean about someone. An ad hominem is when you say that some thing someone believes is wrong on the basis of some irrelevant personal characteristic. ("John may tell you that the Higgs-Boson exists but he is a convicted felon!")

      This may be sarcastic, it may not portray RMS in a good light (I disagree: I think everyone knows RMS is principled to the point of pig-headed; it doesn't change my opinion of RMS at all, just simply confirms what I already know). But it isn't an ad hominem.

      People claim things are ad hominem falsely so often that some people have even started referring to it as The 'Ad Hominem Fallacy' Fallacy. http://plover.net/~bonds/adhominem.html ;-)

    • benaiahJun 2013

      It's actually not an ad hominem. A firm grasp of language, grammar, and communication is actually recognized, albeit informally, to be a good signal of technical skill and design effectiveness. If he can't refine his linguistic communication well enough to convey such a simple sentence, how can he be expected to refine his visual communication (i.e., UX design) well enough to surpass one of the leading UX teams in the industry?

      There are further reasons it's not an ad hominem - I recommend you read The Ad Hominem Fallacy Fallacy [1]. I don't mean to criticize - I made the same mistake until recently, so I offer the article in a spirit of goodwill, not superiority.

      [1]: http://plover.net/~bonds/adhominem.html

    • shardlingJun 2013

      Ad hominem attacks are when you imply that someone's argument is invalid because of their background. That's what makes it a fallacy -- the validity of someone's argument is completely unrelated to their personal qualities.

      http://plover.net/~bonds/adhominem.html

      In contrast, when someone offers an anecdote about their experiences, or in general offers their subjective judgement, then knowing something about them is damn important! For instance, if I knew MOC was a compulsive liar, that would certainly be relevant. Likewise, if MOC was in general an optimist who was loath to ever say anything negative, that would lend extra weight to their comments on grad school.

    • edwApr 2011

      You're falling prey to the Ad Hominem Fallacy Fallacy:

      http://plover.net/~bonds/adhominem.html

      That this is a link-baiting article is not part of my argument. It's a simple observation. The very title of his article is an insult to Apple users.

      Did you read past the first sentence of my comment, to—oh, let me see—the second sentence of my comment, where I explain what my problem with his "argument"—i.e. series of insults—is?

    • rincewindSep 2012

      Are you thinking about Mark Jason Dominius? His Web site is http://perl.plover.com/. He made a presentation about making presentations at OSCON: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Tsom5hI98

      Stephen Bond, who wrote the linked page, is at http://plover.net/~bonds/. I could not find any OSCON talks by him. Can you please provide a link? I think you are confusing them based on the similar domain names.

    • old-greggDec 2008

      After some googling I found something:
      http://plover.net/~bonds/genderedlanguage.html

      "... The problem is that in the English language, the "traditional" gender-neutral form -- "his" -- happens to be the same as the masculine form. And to say or imply that an arbitrary or unknown person must be male, as those who use "his" are claimed to do, is discriminatory... "

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