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    Mobile Orchard

    mobileorchard.com · Company blog · on HN since 2008

    Mobile Orchard, run by Dan Grigsby, covered iPhone app development, marketing and App Store economics, with a podcast.

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    What HN says

    HN links it as an iPhone developer resource, including a piece on writing native UIKit apps in Lua; commenters noted its shutdown.

    Stats for nerds
    34HN people shared it
    58linked in comments
    624story points
    Sep 2011last shared
    2008people per year2011

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      Dan Grigsby (Mobile Orchard) abandoning iPhone development
      2 people · 141 points · first shared 2010 · 56 comments on HN
    2. 2
      An iPad App Developer Trying Every Marketing Trick in the Book: Case Study
      2 people · 48 points · first shared 2011 · 5 comments on HN
    3. 3
      IPhone Sales Figures - 78x One-Day Jump
      1 person · 37 points · first shared 2009 · 13 comments on HN
    4. 4
      App Store Heresies: Higher Price, Better Ratings. Don’t Discount Your App.
      1 person · 36 points · first shared 2009 · 19 comments on HN
    5. 5
      Native UIKit iPhone Apps Written In Lua
      3 people · 34 points · first shared 2009 · 30 comments on HN
    6. 6
      IPhone app that isn't
      2 people · 32 points · first shared 2010 · 20 comments on HN
    7. 7
      IPhone Provisioning: Running Development Code On Your Phone.
      1 person · 31 points · first shared 2009 · 10 comments on HN
    8. 8
      Reasons why Apple should add "Gift This App" to iTunes
      1 person · 30 points · first shared 2009 · 21 comments on HN
    9. 9
      7 UI Design Resources for iPhone Developers
      1 person · 19 points · first shared 2008 · Discussion on HN
    10. 10
      iPhone Memory Management Links and Resources
      2 people · 17 points · first shared 2009 · 7 comments on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • recoiledsnakeAug 2011

      >But defending Microsoft (or Blackberry, to take another example)? To me, it seems like being a huge fan of Gap fashion (sorry, for the comparison, Gap). Or Con-Ed.

      The problem is that there are lot of technically inclined people who are either not knowledgeable about MS, or are already fans of Apple or Google or other non-MS tech like LAMP, RoR, etc. etc.

      For example, lets take the Metro UI in WP7:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1sN2Q6ded8&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL (short ad)

      Longer articles, but with lots of pictures to glance through:
      http://www.riagenic.com/archives/487
      http://www.riagenic.com/archives/493

      Now lets see the iPhone UI elements
      http://www.mobileorchard.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/omnigraffle-iphone-ui-design.png

      Android UI elements

      http://smokingapples.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/android-user-interface.jpg

      Which ones look like this from over 20 years ago? http://images.yourdictionary.com/images/computer/_PROGMAN.GIF

      Who were you comparing to Gap again? If Metro were made by Apple or Google, people here would fawning all over. A Gruber article about how great and innovative Metro is, compared to all the regular UIs out there which all have UI chrome would get around 400 upvotes since it's a story about Apple disrupting the paradigm. The Windows 8 UI also seems to be ahead of the iPads'. But since it's MS here, we all like to hate on it on tech sites, regardless of actual merits. Was there even an article on HN about the Metro UI that got…

    • ApocryphonSep 2011

      This is a Google Custom Search Engine that I've set up. I'm focusing on sites that would be useful for new iOS developers, specifically sites with good tutorials, examples, or articles. This is my site list so far:

      http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/
      http://cocoadevcentral.com/
      http://www.iphonesdkarticles.com/
      http://iphonedevelopertips.com/
      http://mobileorchard.com/
      http://maniacdev.com/
      http://mauvilasoftware.com/iphone_software_development/
      http://www.mikeash.com/pyblog/
      http://www.icodeblog.com/
      http://theocacao.com/
      http://www.mlsite.net/blog/
      http://petermcintyre.wordpress.com/
      http://blog.sallarp.com/
      http://wiresareobsolete.com/
      http://vellios.com
      http://www.themikeswan.com/blog/
      http://themikeswan.wordpress.com/
      http://longweekendmobile.com/
      http://www.duckrowing.com/
      http://www.peterfriese.de/

      Any suggestions for any more sites that I should add to it?

    • ryannielsenMay 2011

      > * it's not officially supported by Apple

      MacRuby is an Apple project.

      PyObjC isn't, but ships in Mac OS X. That's rather officially supported.

      > * it binds to Cocoa (and if you're lucky it's even up to date and doesn't have that many bugs)

      Not true. MacRuby is a prime example of a language that taps directly into the Objective-C runtime, eliminating the need for a bridge. And PyObjC is a great example of a mature bridge – it's been around and robust since the NeXT era.

      > * you can't use it on iOS

      http://mobileorchard.com/announcing-iphone-wax-native-uikit-iphone-apps-written-in-lua/

      > * you can't get a job doing X instead of Obj-C because almost everyone just uses Obj-C, the Apple supported language

      You can't get jobs programming Ruby, Python, C#, Lua or any other language?

    • TomOfTTBApr 2010

      Well mobileorchard is shutting down and many of his comments seem to indicate at least a few developers are following him

      http://www.mobileorchard.com/goodbye/#comments

      But by in large I think most of the developers upset by this are ones who wanted to develop for the iPhone not ones that are already. Since those who already did develop for the iPhone would obviously know how to use Objective-C already. The true cruelty of this is that Apple basically pulled the rug out from under these people after they'd been waiting for over a year (since CS5 was announced)

      Anticipating something like that for so long and then having it taken from you at virtually the last minute is bound to cause a lot of anger

    • petercooperOct 2008

      It's still early days, but myself and Dan Grigsby launched http://www.mobileorchard.com/ a couple of weeks ago.

      We already have an iPhone developers' podcast (first episode is an interview with Hampton Catlin, who's selling 1000 copies of his app each day) and are trying to link to interesting iPhone developer related stuff over time. It's getting better each week :) You can also follow us on Twitter at http://twitter.com/MobileOrchard

      As an example of what we have, try: http://www.mobileorchard.com/9-places-to-publicize-your-iphone-app/ - 9 places to publicize your iPhone app :)

    • gte910hApr 2010

      And Apple never changes position on anything and removes things from the store retroactively. Oh wait they do that all the time.

      The way the agreement is written it expressly forbids interpreters. Additionally, corona is mostly compiled (although parts are still in an intermediate format see 16:30 in http://www.mobileorchard.com/corona-easy-to-implement-high-performance-native-iphone-apps-written-in-lua/)

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