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    APNIC Labs

    labs.apnic.net · Company blog · on HN since 2011

    The research arm of APNIC, the Asia-Pacific internet registry, publishing measurements of DNS, IPv6 adoption, routing and internet privacy.

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    What HN says

    HN links it for data on routing tables, route leaks, DNS resolver behavior and IPv6; commenters cite it as a source and note its DNS privacy data-handling pledge.

    Stats for nerds
    19HN people shared it
    10linked in comments
    27story points
    Jun 2025last shared
    2015people per year2025

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      Literally IPv6
      2 people · 15 points · first shared 2013 · 1 comments on HN
    2. 2
      APNIC Labs Enters into a DNS Research Agreement with Cloudflare
      4 people · 3 points · first shared 2018 · Discussion on HN
    3. 3
      DNS Resolver Centrality
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2019 · Discussion on HN
    4. 4
      But That’s Impossible Crazy middleware breaking ipv6
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2013 · Discussion on HN
    5. 5
      Tracking users' IPv6 capability using Google Analytics
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2011 · 1 comments on HN
    6. 6
      Literally IPv6
      1 person · 1 points · first shared 2013 · Discussion on HN
    7. 7
      IP Fragmentation
      1 person · 1 points · first shared 2017 · Discussion on HN
    8. 8
      DNS4EU
      1 person · 1 points · first shared 2023 · Discussion on HN
    9. 9
      Post 479
      1 person · first shared 2018
    10. 10
      2004 07 27 multi6 arch.pdf
      1 person · first shared 2022

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • ENOTTYApr 2018

      An excellent find!

      > We will be destroying all “raw” DNS data as soon as we have performed statistical analysis on the data flow. We will not be compiling any form of profiles of activity that could be used to identify individuals, and we will ensure that any retained processed data is sufficiently generic that it will not be susceptible to efforts to reconstruct individual profiles. Furthermore, the access to the primary data feed will be strictly limited to the researchers in APNIC Labs, and we will naturally abide by APNIC’s non-disclosure policies.

      So it's a 5 year research program, with options to extend it as a research program. To me, that means they intend to keep DNS data for up to 5 years (or longer) before performing statistical analysis and processing on it. Here is APNIC Labs's privacy policy http://labs.apnic.net/privacy.shtml and APNIC's privacy policy https://www.apnic.net/about-apnic/corporate-documents/documents/corporate/privacy/#2.4

      So much for "privacy-first".

    • buro9Jun 2015

      I am no expert.

      But a route leak forces traffic to take a different path, and this potentially results in a pipe being inundated with a significant volume of traffic that cannot be handled by ISPs along that route (or simply a dead-end).

      i.e. imagine an ISP in Rio suddenly declaring that they are the best route to reach the networks that contain facebook.com and google.com ... that ISP will DDoS itself or one of their downstream partners. An ISP may not even notice this, but their peers and partners probably will.

      A couple of years ago a BGP route leak took out the entire internet for a few hours for people in Australia. They're fairly common unfortunately, but tend to have limited impact and are resolved quite quickly.

      More info: https://labs.apnic.net/?p=139

    • betterunix2Aug 2021

      A few years old but here you go:

      https://www.retevia.net/fast/

      In some cases, yes, the routing table size will impact performance; for example if the FIB is too big to fit in TCAM:

      https://labs.apnic.net/?p=520

      Note that this particular incident was caused by deaggregation of routes announced by Verizon, and that had the routes been properly aggregated it could have been avoided (though normal routing table growth would have eventually caused the problem anyway).

    • neojimaJun 2018

      https://labs.apnic.net/?p=479

      https://labs.apnic.net/?p=655

      From what I've gleaned, the use of Google ads catches the use case of people who don't actively use Google -- based on the delta in metrics between Google's stats and APNIC's, I would suspect that Google isn't quite as popular globally as you think it is (but their ad platform is!).

    • fulafelMay 2022

      In internet design circles these themes are known as multihoming and the locator/id split problem. See eg https://labs.apnic.net/presentations/store/2004-07-27-multi6-arch.pdf

      Also IETF's envisioned post-TCP transport protocol (SCTP) supports multihoming natively but has failed to take off.

    • notpushkinJun 2025

      1.1.1.1 was initially a joint research project between Cloudflare and APNIC: https://labs.apnic.net/index.php/2018/04/01/apnic-labs-enters-into-a-research-agreement-with-cloudflare/

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