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    K.Mandla

    kmandla.wordpress.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2010

    K.Mandla wrote about running command-line and console-only Linux systems on older hardware, including text browsers and framebuffer apps.

    Visit blogHN submissions
    Open Source & LinuxRetro Computing
    What HN says

    HN commenters recommend it as a favorite for GNU/Linux on old hardware, noting the blog has been abandoned since 2015, and link its Teapot guide.

    Stats for nerds
    17HN people shared it
    7linked in comments
    29story points
    Apr 2022last shared
    2010people per year2022

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      A comparison of text-based browsers
      3 people · 15 points · first shared 2011 · 4 comments on HN
    2. 2
      Sorry Microsoft: No cookie for you
      1 person · 6 points · first shared 2011 · Discussion on HN
    3. 3
      Computing Zen: How to switch to a console lifestyle
      2 people · 3 points · first shared 2010 · Discussion on HN
    4. 4
      Things to do with an old computer. Anyone can add more ideas?
      1 person · 3 points · first shared 2011 · 4 comments on HN
    5. 5
      An antitechnoegalitarianizationist manifesto
      1 person · 1 points · first shared 2010 · Discussion on HN
    6. 6
      A quick look at framebuffer applications
      1 person · 1 points · first shared 2020 · Discussion on HN
    7. 7
      Homepage
      3 people · first shared 2010
    8. 8
      How to use teapot like a pro
      3 people · first shared 2015
    9. 9
      Software
      2 people · first shared 2010
    10. 10
      Ill let you in on a little secret
      1 person · first shared 2014

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • overgun77Jan 2013

      Linux Mint does this on their LMDE version. A rolling release will mean that Canonical must provide an easy way to rollback to previous package versions or to save snapshots of the user's machine before upgrading. You can't expect that an Ubuntu end-user to have the same technical knowledge as someone with experience with Debian, Gentoo or the BSDs to troubleshoot when suddenly their computer is not booting and that they need to change run levels or disable their display manager to figure out what's wrong with Xorg. Shit happens, and happens often.

      Also, I've used Archlinux (now Debian sid recently with their systemd "upgrade" and other desicions that deviate away from their KISS principle) and haven't experienced any problem, then again I tend to run a maximalist[1] desktop. Stuff starts to break when you have a lot of applications installed with their own dependencies and their own team of people working on that application, I've always felt that the whole desktop environment on Linux is like building a tower with cubes, it's solid when you have a few applications, but as you start adding stuff on top, the whole things starts trembling away and it takes a really small problem to bring everything down.

      If this is going to be done, they better provide ways to their users to easily recover from an upgrade gone wrong.

      [1] - Maximailism is a better word: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/maximalism-is-a-better-word/

    • martttApr 2022

      There's also Teapot, with FLTK or ncurses-based UI: https://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/how-to-use-teapot-like-a-pro/

      Archived homepage of the project: https://web.archive.org/web/20211124073408/https://www.syntax-k.de/projekte/teapot/

      Its most relevant feature seems to be 3-dimensional tables. From the home page: "Instead of the unflexible and complicated syntax used to address the values of cells in traditional spread sheets ("B1" or "R1C2"), teapot uses for a more functional approach: "@(1,2,0)". This results in an easily understandable syntax and despite the very few basic functions, very powerful semantics."

      Haven't used it myself but I was quite curious about it a few years ago.

      EDIT: Has anybody succeeded in entirely replacing his/her spreadsheet needs with e.g. awk scripts? Seems like a nice exercise in the "first simplify your data structures, then analyze" paradigm.

    • userbinatorFeb 2022

      This with WINE is what I think is the perfect combination of GUI and CLI... but as a long-time Windows user, several things stood out and made it look slightly off:

      the menu bar and padding around the icon labels is too tall
      the window borders are slightly too wide (compared to the default)
      scrollbar buttons shouldn't disable at end of travel
      sort direction indicator in header control (which first appeared in Win2k) should be a grey triangle, not a black arrow
      "KiB" and "GiB"
      font has some weird keming in some places

      Nonetheless, this is a lot closer lookalike than some of the others I've seen, such as this one:

      https://kmandla.wordpress.com/projects/lookalike-windows-xp-classic/

    • rolSep 2015

      glances is nice if you want to get an overview of your system resources:

      https://github.com/nicolargo/glances

      bmon and iftop can be used to see network usage:

      https://github.com/tgraf/bmon/

      http://www.ex-parrot.com/pdw/iftop/

      Similar to iftop there is also iotop, but instead of showing network usage, it shows disk usage:

      http://guichaz.free.fr/iotop/

      Side note: There was a blog a couple years ago, which isn't being updated now, that would post reviews of CLI tools. Anyone that is interested in this topic should take a look at it:

      https://kmandla.wordpress.com/software/

      https://inconsolation.wordpress.com/ (new blog from the same person that did http://kmandla.wordpress.com)

    • tomcooksSep 2018

      Having wasted my childhood lurking the (unfortunately stale) KMandla's precious blogposts [0] to find new ways to squeeze functionality out of my EeePC701, I did not really find this video particularly interesting.

      Maybe i'm not the target audience.

      [0](https://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/10/19/howto-switch-to-a-console-lifestyle/)

    • klezJun 2017

      If you're into running GNU/Linux on older hardware, I can't recommend kmandla's blog[0] (abandoned since 2015, also skip the last post to go to the juicy bits) and Inconsolation[1] (by the same guy, abandoned since 2015 too) enough.

      [0] https://kmandla.wordpress.com/

      [1] https://inconsolation.wordpress.com/

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