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    Jonathan Ionath

    ionathan.ch · Personal blog · on HN since 2022

    Jonathan Ionath writes about typography, Unicode and LaTeX, including a research trail into the mysterious character U+237C.

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    What HN says

    Commenters link it for the investigation into the origin and meaning of U+237C, and point to his CV page.

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    20HN people shared it
    11linked in comments
    709story points
    Mar 2026last shared
    2022people per year2026

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow
      11 people · 667 points · first shared 2022 · 295 comments on HN
    2. 2
      U+237C ⍼ Is Azimuth
      1 person · 18 points · first shared 2026 · 3 comments on HN
    3. 3
      Update: U+237C ⍼ &Angzarr;
      1 person · 11 points · first shared 2023 · Discussion on HN
    4. 4
      U+237C ⍼ Is (Also) S9576 ⍼
      1 person · 8 points · first shared 2024 · Discussion on HN
    5. 5
      Little LaTeX Pearls
      1 person · 3 points · first shared 2026 · Discussion on HN
    6. 6
      What's in a GIF?
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2024 · Discussion on HN
    7. 7
      Cv
      2 people · first shared 2023
    8. 8
      Sized types
      1 person · first shared 2023
    9. 9
      Berthold%201900.jpg
      1 person · first shared 2026
    10. 10
      Angzarr.html;
      1 person · first shared 2022

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • cookiengineerMar 2026

      Check the photos in the article, specifically this one [1]

      "Haussystem Didot", the title of the catalog, refers to a letter setting by the printing agency Didot, which is the one I linked on wikipedia.

      The Gallica scans are linked in the wikipedia article. Each of those chapters has hundreds of pages.

      I highly doubt that you eye scanned thousands of pages in French handwritten and mixed typesetted ... within less than a day. You definitely must be lying, they take months to read.

      [1] https://ionathan.ch/assets/images/angzarr/Berthold%201900.jpg

    • HappyPanaceaJun 2023

      This is also not my area of expertise, but considering they are using sized types to prove termination through well-foundness so they are probably suppose to be ordinals where we can have ω < ω+1 but for some reasons they decide to forgo to distinguish between everything larger than ω and denote it as inf.

      Edit: I found an explanation https://ionathan.ch/2021/08/04/sized-types.html

    • voxadamJul 2023

      How do you decide which characters to index? The current Unicode release (15.0) includes 149,186 individual characters. I suppose you can probably ignore U+237C (Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow) seeing as nobody seems to know what it denotes.[0][1]

      [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31012865

      [1] https://ionathan.ch/2022/04/09/angzarr.html

    • olivierestsageJul 2022

      Reminds me of the case of U+237C ⍼ RIGHT ANGLE WITH DOWNWARDS ZIGZAG ARROW [0], also discussed on HN [1].

      [0] https://ionathan.ch/2022/04/09/angzarr.html

      [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31012865

    • zinekellerJul 2022

      And this... character with an unknown meaning or purpose: U+237C ⍼ RIGHT ANGLE WITH DOWNWARDS ZIGZAG ARROW (https://ionathan.ch/2022/04/09/angzarr.html; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31012865)

    • aleph_minus_oneJun 2023

      > Cambridge alum here (for my BA in 2009) but I'm in CA now. Would be willing to try putting in the request. Not sure how to contact Jonathan Chan...

      Look at https://ionathan.ch/cv.html

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