Gabor Cselle

No, he might not, but getting funding of some kind is a pretty large part of the kinds of startups that they /are/ talking about, because it makes it easier to develop that massive, rapid growth that gets people's attention. Likewise, a sale or IPO aren't the only ways to derive value out of the startup, but they're the ones that get the most focus, because they're the fastest way to get the desired results (lots of money). I think that this point of view was pretty clear in several of the talks at SS08.

Do I necessarily think that that's the only kind of "startup" that exists? No, not at all. (And I'm probably gonna get busted at some point for putting words in pg's mouth.)

But, in a nutshell, no, they're not talking about the same kind of businesses you are. Others have already made this point for me (http://www.gaborcselle.com/blog/2008/04/startup-school-surfing-wave.html).

So, coming back and saying, "No, we're talking about two different approaches to the same thing!" ... well, that's not helpful.

Again, my only point is that they're talking about a very specific sort of model when they use the word "startup". If you think your model is the same thing, I wonder how you'd distinguish between a startup and a "software business", or "web venture", or whatever. (And, I think this point is getting made by other elsewhere, not just in this thread but outside of news.yc.)

This sounds very methodical: They have "innovators", "strategists" and "gurus".

What they'll be lacking, though, is access to the entire nation's talent pool. They have no desire to attract people from all over. Unlike Boston or Silicon Valley, PHL is not a desirable place to move to.

Also, they lack the pull of having a PG who is known to a hacker community. This is the main reason why you and I can't clone YC (and yes, I've thought about it: http://www.gaborcselle.com/blog/2006/04/on-cloning-ycombinator-in-europe.html)

http://www.makezine.com

http://www.deutsche-startups.de - German Techcrunch

http://astartupaday.wordpress.com/ - for creative inspiration

http://www.gaborcselle.com/blog/ - watch a new startup in the making

http://www.codinghorror.com

http://www.hackaday.com

http://www.lifehacker.com

http://ikeahacker.blogspot.com/

http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com and http://www.getrichslowly.com - for personal finance

Other than that I pretty much rely on HN to filter interesting stuff ;)

http://www.gaborcselle.com/blog/2008/07/new-company.html

"I am leaving Xobni in late August and starting a new company."

"There are lots of challenges left in the email and communication space. I have some exciting product ideas for my new company, and I feel like I understand the space like few others do."

;)