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    Emily Damstra

    emilydamstra.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2017

    Emily Damstra is an illustrator whose post argues that illustrators should stop drawing dead, pinned butterflies instead of living ones.

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    What HN says

    HN links it whenever artwork shows butterflies in a dead pose, treating it as the reference for that criticism.

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    27HN people shared it
    7linked in comments
    1.8Kstory points
    Jul 2026last shared
    2018people per year2026

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      Please, enough with the dead butterflies (2017)
      17 people · 945 points · first shared 2021 · 210 comments on HN
    2. 2
      Enough with the dead butterflies
      10 people · 849 points · first shared 2017 · 163 comments on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • cloudierOct 2022

      Similar posts:

      - Ants: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17555842

      - Smiling faces: https://grouplens.org/blog/investigating-the-potential-for-miscommunication-using-emoji/

      - Butterflies: http://emilydamstra.com/news/please-enough-dead-butterflies/

      - Trains: https://mobile.twitter.com/BisTheFairy/status/1192557730709622790

      - Horses: https://twitter.com/jelenawoehr/status/1191872816372600832?lang=en

      - Planets: https://mobile.twitter.com/physicsJ/status/1232662211438370817

      - Telescopes: https://mobile.twitter.com/BeckePhysics/status/1233414553607819267

      - Parachutes: https://darekkay.com/blog/parachute-emoji/

      - Chickens: https://www.tumblr.com/ub-notactive/176663342440/reviewing-and-rating-the-chicken-emojis

      - Snakes: https://anothertiredmonster.tumblr.com/post/156610510939/snake-emoji-review

    • embedding-shapeJul 2026

      I'm looking through https://www.c82.net/naturalists-library/illustrations and all the illustrations seems to be of non-dissected animals/insects, at the illustration themselves. Of course, impossible to know if the illustration was drawn from a dead or alive specimen, but none of them seems based on anything picked apart as far as I can tell.

      As an example, all the drawn butterflies seems to be drawn as if they were alive, not dead (https://www.emilydamstra.com/please-enough-dead-butterflies/).

    • robocatMar 2025

      > The drawing shows the long tentacles as you could see them on a dead cuttlefish. As I have said, in the living cuttlefish you can see them only for a fraction of a second

      Yeah: stop drawing dead butterflies https://www.emilydamstra.com/please-enough-dead-butterflies/

      Once you've seen the pattern, you see the same issue with other art. I bought a biology style painting because I liked the intentional dead-animal style (both a bird and some insects).

    • benatkinJan 2020

      I really enjoyed this. It is very similar to "Please, enough with the dead butterflies!" [0] I'd like to see a list of everything like this. Similar to Awesome falsehood [1] but not quite.

      0: https://emilydamstra.com/news/please-enough-dead-butterflies/ ( HN 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14460013 HN 2: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21788356 )

      1: https://github.com/kdeldycke/awesome-falsehood

    • paulgerhardtFeb 2024

      Unrelated to engineering but the recent rebrand to a dead butterfly logo[1][2][3] may be off brand for a platform wishing to communicate a more open, social Internet built on first principles and scientific rigor.

      [1]https://www.emilydamstra.com/please-enough-dead-butterflies/

      [2]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14460013

      [3]https://bsky.social/about/blog/12-21-2023-butterfly

    • shardMay 2021

      It's a little hard to tell because the butterflies are flapping and rotating, but I think your algorithm is sometimes generating dead butterflies.

      https://emilydamstra.com/please-enough-dead-butterflies/

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