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    Red Hat Developer Blog

    developerblog.redhat.com · Company blog · on HN since 2013

    Red Hat engineers write about GCC, C++ internals, Docker storage, NTP and other Linux systems topics.

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    What HN says

    HN links it for compiler and storage explainers, such as GCC's RTL internals and Docker storage scalability, including a post whose author joined the discussion.

    Stats for nerds
    51HN people shared it
    65linked in comments
    1.6Kstory points
    Feb 2017last shared
    2013people per year2017

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      Things to avoid in Docker containers
      1 person · 271 points · first shared 2016 · 90 comments on HN
    2. 2
      JIT-compilation using GCC 5
      2 people · 206 points · first shared 2015 · 25 comments on HN
    3. 3
      GCC 6: -Wmisleading-indentation vs. “goto fail;”
      1 person · 199 points · first shared 2016 · 165 comments on HN
    4. 4
      Improving math performance in glibc
      1 person · 123 points · first shared 2015 · 32 comments on HN
    5. 5
      Storage Scalability in Docker
      3 people · 78 points · first shared 2014 · 13 comments on HN
    6. 6
      Five different ways to handle leap seconds with NTP
      3 people · 70 points · first shared 2015 · 4 comments on HN
    7. 7
      Introducing the “rhel-tools” for RHEL Atomic Host
      1 person · 64 points · first shared 2015 · 17 comments on HN
    8. 8
      GCC 5 in Fedora
      1 person · 59 points · first shared 2015 · 16 comments on HN
    9. 9
      GCC Undefined Behavior Sanitizer – Ubsan
      2 people · 58 points · first shared 2014 · 27 comments on HN
    10. 10
      Red Hat Developers
      1 person · 52 points · first shared 2015 · 17 comments on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • CHY872Apr 2015

      You've absolutely misrepresented the problem, presumably for effect. It's a far more subtle problem; the question is whether compiler writers should not only make their analyses and transformations be safe in the presence of valid code, but also safe in the presence of invalid code.

      This is ironically mainly a problem because older compilers acted normally on some undefined code. So more modern optimising compilers will expect defined behaviour and so forth, leading to new bugs reported in old code. These bugs were always present, they just appear only now.

      It's not the compiler trying to exploit the undefined behaviour deliberately; it's that the compiler is expecting the behaviour to be defined and behaving accordingly. So if you have

      int x = *foo;
      if (foo == NULL) {
      ERROR();
      }

      then clearly in valid C, the if statement will never be taken, so it's safe to remove it. This is something you'd want to happen in most cases, it just so happens that in the above case you might not want it to.

      In terms of whether the fraction of a percent is worth it, well the people who do most of the development of the compilers is large companies like Google, and they don't do it out of the goodness of their hearts, they do it because the benefit of having high performance compilers is worth the expenditure.

      In terms of whether other languages are better, of course they are for many tasks, but C is king of the embedded world, where implementing a full…

    • gtaniJun 2015

      since you got no response:

      - scrapers, spider/crawler and content extractor for NLP analysis

      - analyze your hard drive for old, duplicate etc files

      - Arduino/raspberry pi (challenging, very little RAM, can't use c++11, stdlib, etc

      - CUDA

      _____________

      also you want to look at VC++, clang and gnu toolsets, e.g. "#pragma once" and the C++14 refinements. Meyers Modern Effective and Effective 3rd ed books are great for that. Also Lippman et al's primer

      _________________

      compiler blogs: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/

      http://blog.llvm.org/

      http://developerblog.redhat.com/tag/c/

    • danyorkJan 2017

      You also could run your own DNS resolver on your local device and do the DNSSEC validation there.

      One example of this bundled up in a way that is easy to install is DNSSEC-Trigger: https://nlnetlabs.nl/projects/dnssec-trigger/

      More info in this blog post from Red Hat: http://developerblog.redhat.com/2015/04/14/writing-an-application-that-supports-dnssec-in-rhel-and-fedora/

    • McGlockenshireSep 2013

      Given that Redhat is beginning to backport a larger number of newer platforms [1], I'd expect them to eventually include newer Apache & mod_ssl editions. Hopefully the CentOS folks will be able to pick this stuff up, or duplicate the functionality if RH isn't open-sourcing the bits that make it work.

      1: http://developerblog.redhat.com/2013/09/17/shared-dev-rhscl/

    • twoodfinJun 2015

      I don't think there was anything specific about C++11 that would have forced every implementation to change their ABI.

      IIRC, one of the most significant was a change that made copy-on-write an invalid (or at least much more difficult) implementation for std::string, and gcc's std::string was CoW.

      http://developerblog.redhat.com/2015/02/05/gcc5-and-the-c11-abi/

    • dmalcolmFeb 2017

      [author of the article]

      The RTL dump format does look a lot like Lisp, FWIW; see: https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gccint/RTL.html
      or this article I wrote a while back on it:
      http://developerblog.redhat.com/2014/09/16/improving-gccs-internals/

      (This aspect of GCC is probably the oldest, written by RMS back in the late 1980s, I believe).

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