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    Azure DevOps Blog

    blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/devops · Company blog · on HN since 2017

    Microsoft's Azure DevOps team writes about Git performance, the GVFS virtual file system, and their branching practices.

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    What HN says

    HN links it for the GVFS announcement, which commenters cite as evidence that Git needed extra work to scale to very large repositories.

    Stats for nerds
    41HN people shared it
    51linked in comments
    1Kstory points
    Jan 2019last shared
    2017people per year2019

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      A security vulnerability in Git that can lead to arbitrary code execution
      1 person · 402 points · first shared 2018 · 83 comments on HN
    2. 2
      Supercharging the Git Commit Graph
      7 people · 246 points · first shared 2018 · 83 comments on HN
    3. 3
      Supercharging the Git Commit Graph IV: Bloom Filters
      1 person · 205 points · first shared 2018 · 40 comments on HN
    4. 4
      Release Flow: How We Do Branching on the VSTS Team (2018)
      2 people · 42 points · first shared 2018 · 3 comments on HN
    5. 5
      Microsoft’s Performance Contributions to Git in 2017
      5 people · 35 points · first shared 2018 · Discussion on HN
    6. 6
      The Git commit-graph file format and other optimizations
      2 people · 9 points · first shared 2018 · Discussion on HN
    7. 7
      GVFS Updates: More Performance, More Availability
      5 people · 7 points · first shared 2017 · Discussion on HN
    8. 8
      GVFS for Mac
      3 people · 7 points · first shared 2018 · Discussion on HN
    9. 9
      Azure DevOps Simplified – Zero to Devops on Azure in 60 Seconds
      2 people · 6 points · first shared 2017 · Discussion on HN
    10. 10
      Cloud-hosted Mac agents for CI/CD pipelines
      2 people · 5 points · first shared 2017 · Discussion on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • ethomsonJan 2019

      > Can you provide a reference? I was searching a bit and only things I found was bugs in windows[1] for git lfs.

      Apologies, I hastily mistyped, I meant 500 GB, not 5. (5 GB is about the size of my repository, which is not really so big at all and certainly something git can cope with on its own).

      This series of articles should illustrate some of the issues that VFS for Git tries to address. ("GVFS" is now called "VFS for Git".)

      https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/devops/learn/git/technical-scale-challenges

      And this is a series of articles from an engineer who's been working on improving perf in large repositories in general, not strictly related to the Windows repository:

      https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/devops/2018/06/25/supercharging-the-git-commit-graph/

      > Windows codebase has 3.5 million files and its repo is 300GB in size. It is not normal. This is google or MS type of problem and not average git user. MS instead changing workflow decided to create GVFS[2]

      I didn't say it was normal. Indeed it's uncommon. I said it wasn't pathological.

    • zellynJan 2018

      I totally agree about the unnecessary complexity of the git workflow.

      If you haven't seen it before, check out gitless: actual research-backed simplification of the git commandline workflow.

      Reduced views of files and history are super useful, but unfortunately don't work in the case where you've browsed your way to a part of the code that you seldom work on, since you're less likely to have loaded them into your narrow slice: it's still nice to be able to fix spelling mistakes far afield, and the web editing helps nicely for that.

      What would help with the cases you describe, though, is a synthetic filesystem view, cache-faulted in as needed, like the one Microsoft is building. I'm pretty excited about where that's heading. https://github.com/Microsoft/GVFS for the project, https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/devops/2017/11/15/updates-to-gvfs/ for the announcement they're going to be working with Github. Pretty cool stuff.

    • stoleeJul 2018

      Do you mean `git branch --contains` or `git branch -vv`? There are many options to `git branch` that cause Git to be very slow.

      The commit-graph feature in general will make these faster by reducing time spent parsing commits. You can compute a commit-graph right now if you have Git 2.18 installed: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/devops/2018/06/25/supercharging-the-git-commit-graph/

      Generation numbers will make these operations much faster in Git 2.19. Here are the related commits:

      `git branch --contains`: https://github.com/git/git/commit/f9b8908b85247ef60001a683c281af0080e9ee77

      `git tag --contains`: https://github.com/git/git/commit/819807b33f820dc17d96f043747daf18c5e38516

    • hdhzyNov 2017

      No, they needed to do some modifications to the git suite of tools. Generally git expects all objects to be on disk and Microsoft wanted to have sparse checkouts of files in a specific revision.

      Not really polluting but rather having some objects be fetched only on demand.

      Source: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/devops/2017/02/03/announcing-gvfs-git-virtual-file-system/

      > In addition to the GVFS sources, we’ve also made some changes to Git to allow it to work well on a GVFS-backed repo, and those sources are available at https://github.com/Microsoft/git.

      For the record as far as I understand GVFS the article is correctly using git vs Github.

    • joshkaJan 2019

      > The ability to show descendents of a check-in.

      This is interesting. I wonder if the same thing could be achieved fairly simply in git though by keeping an extra area in the .git folder that handles reversing / denormalizing the DAG for some of the things that these reports show.

      Microsoft are innovating in this area (bringing the improvements that they have in VSTS to the client). There's a good series of blog posts on this at https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/devops/tag/git/ (first article https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/devops/2018/06/25/supercharging-the-git-commit-graph/)

    • int_19hJan 2019

      Async/await has a logical stack that is distinct from the physical stack(s). Quality tooling would show you said logical stack instead of a mish-mash of physical stacks from different async functions that happen to be intermingled on the current thread. Example:

      https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/devops/2013/07/01/debugging-asynchronous-code-in-visual-studio-2013-call-stack-enhancements/

      So you don't need to deal with "inscrutable callback state machines" anymore so than you need to deal with the assembly labels and jumps that your for-loop compiles into.

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