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    Pandora Blog

    blog.pandora.com · Company blog · on HN since 2007

    The official Pandora blog, with company announcements on Pandora Premium, artist royalties, new features and the SiriusXM acquisition.

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    What HN says

    HN links it as the primary source for Pandora's announcements, such as the SiriusXM deal and Pandora Premium, and its royalty payments to artists.

    Stats for nerds
    27HN people shared it
    17linked in comments
    719story points
    Sep 2018last shared
    2009people per year2018

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      Pandora and Royalties
      2 people · 294 points · first shared 2013 · 96 comments on HN
    2. 2
      What Pandora Pays Top Artists
      2 people · 252 points · first shared 2012 · 84 comments on HN
    3. 3
      SiriusXM to Acquire Pandora
      2 people · 140 points · first shared 2018 · 58 comments on HN
    4. 4
      Pandora now includes Classical music
      1 person · 9 points · first shared 2007 · 3 comments on HN
    5. 5
      New Pandora
      1 person · 4 points · first shared 2011 · 2 comments on HN
    6. 6
      Pandora: Congressional Emergency
      1 person · 4 points · first shared 2008 · Discussion on HN
    7. 7
      Pandora Premium
      3 people · 2 points · first shared 2016 · Discussion on HN
    8. 8
      Pandora: 2,000,000 Pandora iPhone users
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2008 · Discussion on HN
    9. 9
      Pandora announces Chromecast support
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2013 · Discussion on HN
    10. 10
      Pandora - listening caps
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2013 · Discussion on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • brownbatMay 2014

      UPDATE: Pandora's response:

      "We love Bette’s music and certainly respect her advocacy for fair compensation for artists," a Pandora spokesperson said in response to this story. "But we must clarify an important fact: Pandora paid more than $6,400 for those 4+ million plays, based on our 2014 rates which are published publicly. In terms of compensation to the creative community Pandora remains by far the highest paying form of radio. Pandora pays songwriters a greater percentage of revenue than terrestrial radio. And Pandora paid 48% of our revenue in performance royalties to rights-holders in 2013 – more than $300 million – while terrestrial radio was required to pay nothing."
      http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/digital-and-mobile/6039697/bette-midler-disparages-pandora-spotify-over-artist

      Older rebuttals during the original Thom Yorke / RIAA campaign:

      Forbes estimates Spotify royalties per listener are almost double those of terrestrial radio:
      http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/07/17/spotify-royalties-appear-to-be-awfully-high-despite-what-thom-yorke-says/

      The artist doesn't see most of the royalties, the payouts from Pandora / Spotify can be orders of magnitude larger than the check the artist sees:
      http://theunderstatement.com/post/53867665082/pandora-pays-far-more-than-16-dollars
      (This is a problem worth examining too, but it's a different problem.)

      Tim Westergren makes some additional points, like Pandora's value for promotion is higher than…

    • pgroteJan 2017

      I just received my pandora one subscription renewal notice and it is due on Sunday. I've thought about it and the only reason I would stay with Pandora is that I have trained it to play music I like. When I turn on my station, I know I'll hear music I want to work to. With that said ...

      Today was the first time I've listened to pandora in close to a month. I've been listening to playlists through Prime Music .. the free version. I listen through our echos, my phone and my desktop. I haven't missed the tailored station I've built through Pandora over 10+ years. I think you are correct with "good enough."

      Oh, and the Pandora Premium doesn't sound like much of a game changer unless I missed a killer feature:

      http://blog.pandora.com/us/coming-soon-pandora-premium/

    • nuweborderSep 2009

      That's the problem. Some indie artits may do this, but not nearly enough, due to Apple's approval process. Most actually are refused as you mentioned, and this is why itunes is not a viable option for unsigned musicians, as many sites are not. The industry is catered to major label musicians, and FCC regulation stricken. It does not meet the needs of the unsigned musician. Checkout Pandora's plight.

      http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/the-tech-observer/2008/08/18/first-bytes-pandora-u2-fcc-techcrunch-vs-demo/

      http://blog.pandora.com/pandora/archives/2009/07/important_updat_1.html

      http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/07/14/pandora-teams-up-with-record-labels-wants-regular-radio-to-pay-music-fees-too/

    • adortonApr 2011

      This isn't really a secret. Pandora outlines their information sharing policy in their FAQ:

      http://blog.pandora.com/faq/contents/60.html
      http://blog.pandora.com/faq/contents/392.html

      They also outlines their location sharing policy:

      You may also get a request for location permissions. This data is used to provide better geolocation for certain ad campaigns. Again, this function would always be under your control. Each time an ad wants to use your location to provide more personalized results, you will be asked for permission to use your location, and you can decline this at any time.

    • cdcoxJun 2013

      According to Pandora about 800 musicians received over 50k a year from them and 2000 received 10k a year. So some people are making a living off Pandora. As Pandora currently has 7% the listeners of radio, it's entirely possible upwards of 10k musicians could make a 'living' off Pandora.

      http://blog.pandora.com/2012/10/09/pandora-and-artist-payments/

    • umeshunniSep 2018

      Pandora's press release says so
      http://blog.pandora.com/us/siriusxm-to-acquire-pandora-creating-worlds-largest-audio-entertainment-company/
      "we announced that we’ve entered into an agreement to be acquired by SiriusXM, in an all-stock transaction, valued at approximately $3.5 billion"

      They're presumably paying a premium on the current stock price.

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