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    Gumroad Blog

    blog.gumroad.com · Company blog · on HN since 2012

    Gumroad's company blog explains how the platform handles selling digital products, covering VAT, pricing experiments, and creator case studies.

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    What HN says

    HN commenters use it for pricing data, pay-what-you-want questions, and EU VAT handling, though one wants clearer sales figures behind the numbers.

    Stats for nerds
    25HN people shared it
    39linked in comments
    284story points
    Dec 2018last shared
    2014people per year2018

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      A Penny Saved: Psychological Pricing
      2 people · 83 points · first shared 2013 · 44 comments on HN
    2. 2
      Nathan Barry’s Lessons Learned Earning $355,759 through Gumroad
      1 person · 41 points · first shared 2014 · 16 comments on HN
    3. 3
      Gumroad Stories: Sacha Greif
      1 person · 31 points · first shared 2012 · 1 comments on HN
    4. 4
      Gumroad introduces Offers (allows discount codes for products)
      1 person · 14 points · first shared 2013 · Discussion on HN
    5. 5
      The Data Behind Pay-What-You-Want Pricing
      1 person · 12 points · first shared 2013 · 1 comments on HN
    6. 6
      Gumroad Stories: CSSHat
      1 person · 10 points · first shared 2012 · 2 comments on HN
    7. 7
      Discover Meteor Case Study: Making $300,000 from a Single Programming Book
      2 people · 9 points · first shared 2014 · Discussion on HN
    8. 8
      Instantly Stream Video on Gumroad
      1 person · 8 points · first shared 2013 · Discussion on HN
    9. 9
      Get Notified in Real Time with Gumroad Ping
      1 person · 7 points · first shared 2013 · Discussion on HN
    10. 10
      Gumroad Stories: Nathan Barry
      1 person · 7 points · first shared 2012 · 1 comments on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • ArjunaMay 2017

      Hello... this is a topic I'm interested in, because I'd like to write one day. Anyway, I thought you might find these resources useful:

      1. Nathan Barry has written extensively about his success with self-publishing. Essentially, his method (I'm simplifying here) is to 1. position yourself as an expert in your field via blogging, then 2. directly market to your audience via email using a 3. tiered pricing model (i.e., multiple packages at increasing price-points). He wrote a book about his methodology entitled "Authority."

      Authority:

      http://nathanbarry.com/authority

      Nathan Barry’s Lessons Learned Selling $355,759 on Gumroad:

      http://blog.gumroad.com/post/73421524134/nathan-barrys-lessons-learned-selling-355759-on

      2. Bob Nystrom has written about his experience writing and marketing "Game Programming Patterns."

      http://journal.stuffwithstuff.com/2014/04/22/zero-to-95688-how-i-wrote-game-programming-patterns

      http://journal.stuffwithstuff.com/2014/11/20/how-my-book-launch-went

      A comment he wrote regarding publishing:

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13878280

      3. Advice and insight on the topic of traditional publishing from Patrick McKenzie:

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12118914

      4. Thread entitled "Ask HN: Has anyone here self-published a book? Any advice?"

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6052075

      5. Self-publishing success comment involving multiple pricing tiers:

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13878266

      6. Self-publishing success story…

    • lovelearningJun 2016

      It probably depends on what the product or service is, and how it's sold. Coursera already provides some courses for free, and even those attract some high maintenance types from what I've seen in the forums. Does providing a pay-what-you-want option increase the number of nasties or the degree of nastiness, for example, inviting legal risks? I don't really know. But I feel Coursera should atleast experiment and gather the data before deciding, instead of missing out on all that data.

      Leanpub and Gumroad are two services that follow this strategy. I don't know if they are successful ventures, but I notice they have maintained this pricing strategy since their inception and never changed or stopped it.

      Leanpub says "...the pattern we have seen with multiple books, about a third of people will pay the suggested price, a third will pay the minimum price and a third will pay somewhere in between. Finally, the odd person will pay more than the suggested price" [1]. Some anecdotal experiences of individual authors [2],[3],[4] support it.

      [1]: https://leanpub.com/help/author_faq
      [2]: http://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/1626
      [3]: http://blog.ppenev.com/2013/07/16/what-i-have-learned-from-leanpub.html
      [4]: http://blog.gumroad.com/post/75707736685/is-pay-what-you-want-pricing-for-you

    • pawodpzzDec 2018

      Gumroad handles VAT-EU for you[0] but I didn't tried it. If anyone worked with them, here are some questions I have:

      - do they send one monthly payment? If so, from which country?

      - is VAT-EU number needed?

      - if I don't register for VAT (don't reach yearly selling threshold), do I get full payout? Are clients charged for VAT in such scenario?

      - what documents do I get from them, in case of tax office review?

      - is 3.5% + $0.30 fee applicable to EU customers or is there some additional cost (I assume not, but I ask just to be sure)?

      - if I sell digital product, what should I do about e.g. Canadian/Indian/Japanese/whatever sell taxes?

      [0] http://blog.gumroad.com/post/110080508463/vat

    • KevinEldonJul 2016

      Gumroad has a feature called PDF stamping [1] that puts the buyer's email address on the PDF. It's not perfect security, anyone who wants to ignore your copy rights probably will, but it might deter unthoughtful sharing.

      Also consider a team/company license priced at some multiple (15x?) that will allow a manager or lead to buy your book for their company/team without having to worry about violating copyrights or managing buying the book for every employee.

      [1] - http://blog.gumroad.com/post/40614820182/introducing-pdf-stamping

    • olivier1664May 2015

      That's impressive. Unfortunately the source* of theses number is not very clear on how many items has been sold and if people buy by unit or by pack. I would love to see more tests result like that.

      http://blog.gumroad.com/post/64417917582/a-penny-saved-psychological-pricing

    • mcbetzAug 2016

      Both Gumroad (http://blog.gumroad.com/post/110080508463/vat) and Paddle (https://www.paddle.com/support/how-does-paddle-handle-vat-on-my-behalf) are payment providers who will handle EU VAT for you. Paddle is probably more suited for a SAAS.

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