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    SoundCloud Backstage Blog

    backstage.soundcloud.com · Company blog · on HN since 2011

    SoundCloud's engineering team writes about its architecture, Go, Backbone.js, and data storage choices.

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    What HN says

    HN links it for SoundCloud's use of Go, its Backbone.js site, and its account of failing with MongoDB for statistics before choosing Cassandra.

    Stats for nerds
    24HN people shared it
    17linked in comments
    480story points
    Aug 2013last shared
    2012people per year2013

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      How SoundCloud built its new single-page main website using Backbone.js
      3 people · 198 points · first shared 2012 · 65 comments on HN
    2. 2
      Go at SoundCloud
      7 people · 190 points · first shared 2012 · 109 comments on HN
    3. 3
      Building SoundCloud Mobile with Backbone.js
      1 person · 36 points · first shared 2011 · 5 comments on HN
    4. 4
      Evolution of SoundCloud’s Architecture
      3 people · 21 points · first shared 2012 · Discussion on HN
    5. 5
      Introducing the Large Hadron Migrator
      1 person · 16 points · first shared 2012 · 1 comments on HN
    6. 6
      MySQL for Statistics
      2 people · 6 points · first shared 2011 · Discussion on HN
    7. 7
      Web Scale Statistics – Failing with MongoDB
      2 people · 4 points · first shared 2011 · Discussion on HN
    8. 8
      Architecture for SoundCloud's new Search and Explore features
      1 person · 3 points · first shared 2012 · Discussion on HN
    9. 9
      Mountable API Proxies
      1 person · 2 points · first shared 2011 · Discussion on HN
    10. 10
      Doing the right thing
      1 person · 1 points · first shared 2011 · Discussion on HN

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • mseepgoodApr 2013

      > Apart from Google (who uses it for Youtube), Go hasn't really been used in large projects.

      I don't know how large each of these projects is, but a growing number of companies are using it for serious projects:

      Iron.io: How We Went from 30 Servers to 2 with Go
      http://blog.iron.io/2013/03/how-we-went-from-30-servers-to-2-go.html

      Behind the Scenes: Big Data at Torbit
      http://torbit.com/blog/2013/02/19/big-data-at-torbit/

      pool.ntp.org DNS server in Go
      http://news.ntppool.org/2012/10/new-dns-server.html

      Juju at Canonical
      http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/18atce/juju_canonical_109k_lines_of_go_code/

      Go at bitly
      http://word.bitly.com/post/29550171827/go-go-gadget

      CloudFlare blows hole in laws of Web physics with Go and Railgun
      http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/02/cloudflare-blows-hole-in-laws-of-web-physics-with-go-and-railgun/

      dl.google.com now served by Go
      https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/golang-nuts/BNUNbKSypE0

      Go At Conformal
      https://www.cyphertite.com/blog.php?/archives/7-Go-at-Conformal..html

      Go at Novartis
      https://plus.google.com/114945221884326152379/posts/d1SVaqkRyTL

      Go at the BBC
      http://www.quora.com/Go-programming-language/Is-Google-Go-ready-for-production-use/answer/Kunal-Anand

      Go at SoundCloud
      http://backstage.soundcloud.com/2012/07/go-at-soundcloud/

      Go at CloudFlare
      http://blog.cloudflare.com/go-at-cloudflare

      Go at Heroku
      http://blog.golang.org/2011/04/go-at-heroku.html

      Building StatHat with…

    • ungerikSep 2012

      Here is the content:

      Go at Heroku
      http://blog.golang.org/2011/04/go-at-heroku.html

      Why you PHP guys should learn Golang
      http://www.mikespook.com/2012/08/why-you-php-guys-should-learn-golang/

      Go at CloudFlare
      http://blog.cloudflare.com/go-at-cloudflare

      Go at Moovweb
      https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/golang-nuts/MeiTNnGhLg8/discussion

      Go at SoundCloud
      http://backstage.soundcloud.com/2012/07/go-at-soundcloud/

      Go at the BBC
      http://www.quora.com/Go-programming-lGetConsoleTitleanguage/Is-Google-Go-ready-for-production-use/answer/Kunal-Anand

      Go at Novartis
      https://plus.google.com/114945221884326152379/posts/d1SVaqkRyTL

      Google I/O 2012: Go in production
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKQLhGZVN4A

      @derekcollison: "Prediction: Go will become the dominant language for systems work in IaaS, Orchestration, and PaaS in 24 months."
      https://twitter.com/derekcollison/status/245522124666716160

      @tobi: "I have now completed two projects in Go. I predict that it's going to be the dominant language for server work."
      https://twitter.com/tobi/status/245873677483274240

      Why I went from Python to Go (and not node.js)
      http://jordanorelli.tumblr.com/post/31533769172/why-i-went-from-python-to-go-and-not-node-js

      Packages/Libs
      http://godashboard.appspot.com/
      http://go.pkgdoc.org/

    • mikeknoopDec 2012

      I've implemented something similar in the same manner (over-riding `new`). The original idea came from here: http://backstage.soundcloud.com/2012/06/building-the-next-soundcloud/

      One implementation detail I ran into is how to detect dupes. When you have Backbone Models, this is easy: every model has an `id`. But say you want to apply this same singleton behavior to a Backbone Collection, which don't have natively have `id`s. I saw two options:

      1. Assign an `id` to the collection when instantiated (could just be a string, so that you can force a singleton only when you desire it).

      2. De-dupe based on `instanceof` checks. The downside here is you always get a singleton even if you might want a one-off instance of a collection.

      Are there any other options? Can your Identiy Map handle collections?

    • lincolnbryantDec 2012

      Soundcloud wrote a blog post http://backstage.soundcloud.com/2011/04/failing-with-mongodb/ about the specifics of how they failed in implementing an analytics platform in MongoDB, then went with Cassandra (and why). I have been at a company where it was on developers to deploy mongo clusters, setting up logging can suck, but still there are no numbers or even application integration specifics here. As someone pointed out - manual denormilization can suck. There are options like MongoHQ and Heroku though so this shouldn't resolve to "don't try a new data store its hard and possibly buggy".

    • thezilchAug 2013

      There are plenty accounts of Go in production: (Google's dl.google.com) https://groups.google.com/d/msg/golang-nuts/BNUNbKSypE0/E4qSfpx9qI8J, (CloudFlare's Railgun) http://blog.cloudflare.com/go-at-cloudflare, (Bit.ly) http://word.bitly.com/post/29550171827/go-go-gadget, (SoundCloud) http://backstage.soundcloud.com/2012/07/go-at-soundcloud/, (Disqus's realtime-backend) http://blog.disqus.com/post/51155103801/trying-out-this-go-thing, etc

    • BitMastroAug 2013

      dl.google.com handles all the downloads for google chrome, factory images for android, eclipse.. not exactly tiny and especially not insignificant

      complex web app:
      Cloudfare https://www.cloudflare.com/railgun
      BBC http://www.quora.com/Go-programming-language/Is-Google-Go-ready-for-production-use/answer/Kunal-Anand
      Soundcloud http://backstage.soundcloud.com/2012/07/go-at-soundcloud/

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