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    BabelStone

    babelstone.blogspot.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2009

    Andrew West writes about Unicode, historical scripts, and writing systems, including long s rules, Tibetan numerals, and new Unicode releases.

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    What HN says

    HN commenters link it as an authoritative, detailed source on Unicode proposals, the long s, and unusual characters like Tibetan half digits.

    Stats for nerds
    17HN people shared it
    7linked in comments
    257story points
    Dec 2017last shared
    2009people per year2017

    Top posts on HN

    1. 1
      What's new in Unicode 9.0
      1 person · 101 points · first shared 2016 · 76 comments on HN
    2. 2
      What's new in Unicode 7.0?
      1 person · 74 points · first shared 2013 · 37 comments on HN
    3. 3
      The rules for using "ſ" (long s)
      3 people · 71 points · first shared 2010 · 38 comments on HN
    4. 4
      What's new in Unicode 7.0?
      1 person · 5 points · first shared 2013 · Discussion on HN
    5. 5
      Numbers That Don't Add Up: Tibetan Half Digits (2007)
      2 people · 3 points · first shared 2016 · Discussion on HN
    6. 6
      The Rules for Long S
      2 people · 2 points · first shared 2014 · 1 comments on HN
    7. 7
      72 More Views of the Tower of Babel
      1 person · 1 points · first shared 2011 · Discussion on HN
    8. 8
      Whats new in unicode 70
      1 person · first shared 2014
    9. 9
      How many unicode characters are there
      1 person · first shared 2014
    10. 10
      Homepage
      1 person · first shared 2017

    What HN people wrote when they linked it

    • quant18Oct 2009

      IE8+Vista is still the only combination which can display traditional Mongolian script web pages properly. (Granted this is rather more obscure than Korean, but it's still useful to about 5 million people + every Qing dynasty historian.) All the others:

      1. don't implement/misimplement joining/shaping behaviour

      2. don't support vertical left-to-right layout

      Though to be fair, for the better part of a decade MonTex was the only solution for anyone who wanted to write a document in Mongolian/Manchu/Dagur/etc.

      http://babelstone.blogspot.com/2008/10/vertical-layout-in-ie8.html

    • shervinafsharDec 2017

      I don't believe that Swastika symbol is as ancient as these. Wikipedia tells me that it appears for the first time in 3000 BCE in India.

      Also, regarding "German Laws and general sentiment", I invite you to read this detailed blog post[1] on the history of Svasti symbols in Unicode[2] and the controversies around getting them in Unicode.

      Edit: Typo. Links corrected.

      [1]: https://babelstone.blogspot.com/2006/02/when-is-swastika-not-swastika.html

      [2]: https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/list-unicodeset.jsp?a=%5B%3Aname%3D%2FSVASTI%2F%3A%5D&g=&i=

    • pwdisswordfishJun 2017

      > Flags for England, Scotland and Wales are part of Emoji 5.0 and not shown here as they don't require new code points.

      Apparently Unicode Inc. isn't concerned with flag emoji at all. This 'Emoji 5.0' is a completely independent standard.

      Personally, I prefer reading about Unicode updates from http://babelstone.blogspot.com/ ; it doesn't mix up details like those, and covers additions beyond sensationalist fluff like emoji.

    • smackfuJun 2014

      This page has links to the proposals to add characters:
      http://babelstone.blogspot.com/2013/10/whats-new-in-unicode-70.html

      Including this one with comments on the Wingdings addition.
      http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n4239.pdf

      a) Ireland recommends adding the following new characters to this table:
      1F597 REVERSED HAND WITH MIDDLE FINGER EXTENDED
      1F598 RAISED HAND WITH PART BETWEEN MIDDLE AND RING FINGERS

    • alisterApr 2014

      More fun facts:

      - We went from 128 ASCII characters to 110,187 currently-assigned Unicode characters (or Encoded Character code points, to use precise language)[1]. That's a thousand-fold increase. Who would have thought we'd need so many!

      - Unicode can represent 1,114,112 code points. So there's lots of room for yet more.

      [1] http://babelstone.blogspot.ca/2005/11/how-many-unicode-characters-are-there.html

    • lifthrasiirJul 2017

      This reminds me of the only Unicode character (as of 10.0) which numeral value is negative: U+0F33 TIBETAN DIGIT HALF ZERO has a value of -1/2. Andrew West has written an interesting article [1] about this and other "half" Tibetan numerals.

      [1] https://babelstone.blogspot.com/2007/04/numbers-that-dont-add-up-tibetan-half.html

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